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Old February 22nd, 2009 Feb 22, 2009 11:54:06 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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I am currently having problems with the colour quality of images when they are transferred to t shirts. i am using JPSS and printing with an Epsom Stylus Photo R285. It is loaded with a CISS pigment ink system. The images seem so dull. Is it simply a case of adjusting the colour levels in the printer settings?
 
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You could try boosting the saturation in the settings or get a profile done?
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Old February 22nd, 2009 Feb 22, 2009 7:27:25 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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hi Dave

What do you mean by getting a profile done?
 
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Call your supplier, where you got the ink, and ask if they have any color profiles. Some suppliers do. For example, for the epson 1400 printer, inkjetfly.com has a pigment ink for that printer, and they created a color profile specifically to make the colors look good on JPSS (jetpro sofstretch) paper.
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Excellent. Thanks very much.
 
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be careful not to oversaturate the ink it will notr work very well if tyou do and the dies will run in wash
 
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I've been using the Jpss and thought the color was dull after pressing(also brought to my attention from a customer that I had done shirts previous with magicjet/transjet II).So I did a couple white t's last night.
The 1st with Jpss and the 2nd with magicjet(thansjet II) paper,the same design and ink setting.Pressed each at the temp and time as per directions.The magicjet shirts design looks as good as if it was printed on matte photo paper after pressing(very close anyway),it does have more hand and needs more correction for yellow shift.The Jpss has alot softer feel,but the color is slightly dull(washedout-blacks are more dk grey and colors are alittle flat) compared to the magicjet(transjett II).If I'm missing something with the Jpss any ideas would be great(just bought a bunch Jan.09).For now I'll have to order more magicjet,and put up with the stiffer feel on the shirt.Here's a pic not perfect,but will give you an idea.Left=Jpss Right=Magicjet/TJ II Fresh from the press,neither was washed.
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Thanks for the info thats a real big difference, let me know if you notice anything new after your wash test.
 
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The Jpss has alot softer feel,but the color is slightly dull(washedout-blacks are more dk grey and colors are alittle flat). If I'm missing something with the Jpss any ideas would be great.

I don't know if this will help you, but it helped me. I noticed the same thing about JPSS, looked dull after printing, even tho it did press more vibrantly than it looked on the paper, I still wanted more *punch* of color, and the blacks definitely needed to be deeper.

I adjusted the bright and contrast in the printer preferences. This really increased the depth of the blacks, and the colors punched more next to the deeper blacks.
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Default Re: Dull images on JPSS

A quick tip from the scientists at Neenah.

Difference between hot peel(softer hand, duller colors)
Vs cold peel(more hand, better color).



He needs to do a warm or cold peel then put piece of parchment over transfer and repress for a few seconds
then stretch.



Will have the cold peel color with the hand of a hot peel.


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by the way can anyone tell me who makes magicjet/transjet II
 
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Default Re: Dull images on JPSS

Here are some great step by step instructions from Rhonda on the cold peel. Gordon is right. A cold peel needs a *second* re-heat to avoid cracking in the wash. Rhonda discovered this, and posted a great tutorial on it. Here's the thread:

JPSS Cold Peel :: Revisited (with photos)

I now always re-press with parchment paper when it comes to JPSS (instead of teflon), makes a smooth finish, much more so than repressing with teflon:
Smooth finish on JPSS/Jetpro Sofstretch - as simple as parchment paper!


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by the way can anyone tell me who makes magicjet/transjet II
Sorry, I do not. Ashamutt does a great job linking posts with what paper is truly what, threading any re-naming from paper to paper.

Maybe try to search the forum for that name and search it with the terms "other names". That's usually how I bring up the threads on paper renaming.
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can i aks what printer and what settings you used when you got a dull image please as i would like to see if we can replicate it here. thanks
 
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can i aks what printer and what settings you used when you got a dull image please as i would like to see if we can replicate it here. thanks
Uniwear, who are you asking? Thanks.
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