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Nvr2Old · 3 Weeks Ago

Hello all,

I am appealing to all of you that have more experience than me.
I would like to weigh the pros and cons between light and dark transfers with good quality paper (JPSS, Ironall for darks), versus vinyl transfers.
I have a fairly simple 3 color design appx 10" x 12", and I am looking for the highest quality image I can produce myself on a t-shirt. I think the transfer paper method would be easiest, but not sure about durability.
I have a 24" contour cutter, Epson 1400 printer w/ pigment ink system, and heat press.
Can anybody tell me the pros and cons for each method?
Durability through wash cycles, costs, etc?
I'm sure a lot of you have tried both processes, your opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Colorfast · 3 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Nvr2Old


	Hello all, I am appealing to all of you that have more experience than me. I would like to weigh the pros and cons between light and dark transfers with good quality paper (JPSS, Ironall for darks), versus vinyl transfers. I have a fairly simple 3 color design appx 10" x 12", and I am looking for the highest quality image I can produce myself on a t-shirt. I think the transfer paper method would be easiest, but not sure about durability. I have a 24" contour cutter, Epson 1400 printer w/ pigment ink system, and heat press. Can anybody tell me the pros and cons for each method? Durability through wash cycles, costs, etc? I'm sure a lot of you have tried both processes, your opinions would be greatly appreciated.

IMHO vinyl is much better quality! I use JPSS and vinyl. Vinyl will last much longer, can be used on any color shirt and not fade. I have never found a dark transfer paper that I liked. JPSS is limited to white and in some cases could be used on light pink, light yellow or light gray/ash.

Depending on your design (how much weeding) and qty needed 3 color vinyl could be a lot of work. Have you checked into plastisol transfers?

tdprout · 3 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Colorfast


	. I have never found a dark transfer paper that I liked.

Have you ever tried paraopy paper for darks?

charles95405 · 3 Weeks Ago

I agree with Chip..Vinyl will outlast the garment and will work on any color..if doing three colors, you need thin vinyl..like thermflex and a design that lends itself to good registration...with your cutter you should have a little over lap to cover this..

as to transfers to dark...I just do not do them..and if they insist and it is small order, I outsource to dtg...or large order outsource to screen printer

Colorfast · 3 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by tdprout


	Have you ever tried paraopy paper for darks?

I tried a few papers from Coastal and was not impressed. Every dark transfer paper I have seen and or printed is just a "sticker" type product that will not last long. I would be embarresed to sell it.

I have not tried Paraopy. I believe Coastal sells it. They may send or sell a few sheets for you to try.

Nvr2Old · 3 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Colorfast


	I have not tried Paraopy. I believe Coastal sells it. They may send or sell a few sheets for you to try.

Funny, read quite a few posts saying Ironall dark was good. Haven't been able to try it yet, but I will get some Paraopy.

I looked at Coastal and could not find Paraopy, could it be misspelled? No results on on google also.

mary@work · 3 Weeks Ago

vinyl is the way to go, especially if it is a small number of shirts. make sure your design has clean lines for cutting.

Colorfast · 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Nvr2Old


	Funny, read quite a few posts saying Ironall dark was good. Haven't been able to try it yet, but I will get some Paraopy. I looked at Coastal and could not find Paraopy, could it be misspelled? No results on on google also.

Try this link:

Paropy LASER OPAQUE Heat Transfer Paper 11" x 17" (50 sheets) - PPITLDLW

Nvr2Old · 2 Weeks Ago

Thanks for the info Colorfast. The link is for Laser transfer paper, has anyone tried the Paropy opaque paper for inkjet transfers?

honored1 · 3 Days Ago

I'm also new (and apparently 2 weeks late) but I have high detailed & brightly colored comicbook characters & fans really like the darker shirts. You would agree that printable vinyl is the way to go for darks & jpss for whites? If so, what type of vinyl & where do I get it from?

Nvr2Old · 2 Days Ago

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Originally Posted by honored1


	I'm also new (and apparently 2 weeks late) but I have high detailed & brightly colored comicbook characters & fans really like the darker shirts. You would agree that printable vinyl is the way to go for darks & jpss for whites? If so, what type of vinyl & where do I get it from?

By printable vinyl do you mean Plastisol transfers? I have not tried Plastisol yet. Still hoping a good transfer paper comes out for darks.
Some dark transfer paper almost looks like a thin printable vinyl after you remove the backing paper.
Right now am waiting to hear test results for 3G jet Opaque and Roland transfer paper.

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