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Old April 20th, 2009 Apr 20, 2009 8:49:41 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys,

I have been reading this site for some weeks now. Not sure if I am putting this post in the right spot or not.

I been thinking about silk screening for some time, then I come to relize what I am silk screening I can do with a heat press & more.

Most of my shirts was going to be just sayings but I notice a market and more profit if I add images to them.

Screen printing cant give me the full color and image that I would need.

Help me out here.

Can I use the same transfer paper more then once? If I print it and press it, its no good and I will need to print another one.

I know transfer paper cost alot. What would be the basic price line?

This is what I came up with if I do screen printing.

15 for the screen (i can make it) profit about $5

about 35 cent for the ink per shirt.

$5 per shirt, thats about $2.00 profit per shirt.

I dont want IRON on and im worried about seeing a film in the shirt where it was pressed.
I dont want to cut out each letter to a word to press it.

I know i sound stupit but im just looking for some online sales and to do local company's shirts.

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Old April 20th, 2009 Apr 20, 2009 12:53:56 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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You can print just about any variety of color and detail with screen printing. If you'd rather heat press your designs, you can use a vinyl cutter and heat press vinyl, you can have someone make plastisol transfers, you can use sublimation or inkjet transfers, or any other sort of transfer available. It all depends on what sort of quality of print and budget you have in mind.
 
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maybe I need to read up on this some more, im looking to spend about 1,000us.
i just dont see screenprinting makinging a full grafix t-shirt.
 
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maybe I need to read up on this some more, im looking to spend about 1,000us.
i just dont see screenprinting makinging a full grafix t-shirt.
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I been thinking about silk screening for some time, then I come to relize what I am silk screening I can do with a heat press & more.
What you can do with plastisol screen printing, you can do with plastisol heat transfers and a heat press, but otherwise, all of the different print methods vary to a degree, and sometimes that degree is alot.


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Most of my shirts was going to be just sayings but I notice a market and more profit if I add images to them.
Definitely vinyl can give you the sayings in a good quality, durable method. As far as images, if you are looking for photographic images, vinyl is out, but you can do vector type images in vinyl. So if you can go with vinyl or not will depend on the images you have in mind.


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Screen printing cant give me the full color and image that I would need.

Help me out here.
DTG, sublimation (for polyester fabric), inkjet heat transfer, Laser heat transfer will all give full color photographic type images. Again, depends on what you have in mind, and what quality of print.


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Can I use the same transfer paper more then once? If I print it and press it, its no good and I will need to print another one.
Yes. One time print and then it is transfered to the shirt.

What kind of transfer paper are you talking about specifically? Laser, dye sublimation or inkjet heat transfer?

The same answer applies to all, but I was just wondering which paper you had in mind, because the processes vary alot at some point.

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I know transfer paper cost alot. What would be the basic price line?
Depends on which process you are talking about. This is where we'd need to know dye sub, laser or inkjet to give you an idea.


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This is what I came up with if I do screen printing. 15 for the screen (i can make it) profit about $5. about 35 cent for the ink per shirt.$5 per shirt, thats about $2.00 profit per shirt.
Are the prices above your proposed costs, or the charges to the customer?

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I dont want IRON on and im worried about seeing a film in the shirt where it was pressed. I dont want to cut out each letter to a word to press it.
If you want to use transfer paper, but don't want any film, and don't want to cut, then maybe laser transfers, or the newer Imageclip for Inkjet paper is for you. Those are processes that I would recommend you look up.

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I know i sound stupit but im just looking for some online sales and to do local company's shirts.
You don't sound stupid at all. You sound like someone looking for some information, and a place to start researching. Luckily, you're in good company here, bc most of us have to start out with the basic questions.
I did, millions of them.

For the online sales, who is your target market? That'll help you select the proper blank.

For the company shirts, usually a good Hanes Beefy Tee will suffice, but you can research that, too, and decide what you would like to offer when you market to them.

Once you select a print method, you can select some sample tees to put them together, wash and dry them, and see if the finished product reaches your standards and represents what you want to put out on the market.

Good luck to you.
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maybe I need to read up on this some more, im looking to spend about 1,000us.
i just dont see screenprinting makinging a full grafix t-shirt.
Screen printing can do full graphics, photographs, fades and much more. Check out these pictures:
http://www.t-shirtforums.com/members...anta-2008.html

One thing you also need to decide is if you want to do the printing yourself, or just outsource it to start. That $1000 could go a long way into buying printed t-shirts with your designs and be the start of a marketing budget:

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Girlzndollz & Rodney, Thank you so much for the help.


I have not looked into transfer paper that much. The prices I listed is what I make, The customer only knows $15 for screen and $5 per shirt.

The target ONLINE market would be geeks, gammers and teens. There are a few catagorays on the site.


I dont think out sourcing would be good. The prices around here for screen printing is high and i dont have too much room for inventory, drop shipping would be a pain in setting up. I think you can make more profit doing it yourself as sales comes in. If it dont work hey, i got something to do on the side as a hoby.
 
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