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Old June 29th, 2009 Jun 29, 2009 12:36:55 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Question Heat press vinyl on hats?

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I'm looking to expand to do heat press vinyl on hats, but I have one question - How do you deal with the seam that is in the center of the hat? I would think that this might cause a problem but I haven't experimented yet.

I've looked for hats without that center seam, but haven't found any 'quality' hats that don't have them.

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Old June 29th, 2009 Jun 29, 2009 1:08:19 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Oh the seam. I haven't had any issues using vinyl on hats with a seam. The vinyl will adhere to the seam without a problem. Haven't had any customers complain about yet. Knock on wood.
 
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Oh the seam. I haven't had any issues using vinyl on hats with a seam. The vinyl will adhere to the seam without a problem. Haven't had any customers complain about yet. Knock on wood.
What hat material do you normally use? I am picking up an assortment of hats to experiment with. What type of vinyl do you typically use?

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Default Re: Heat press vinyl on hats?

i also don't have any issue with the center seam - as long as the decoration is not too small/intricate. i use imprintable warehouse's eco-film and stahl's thermo-film. both are 'hot peel' and the stahl's does adhere slightly better than the eco-film. probably because it is pressed at a higher temp, so it 'melts' into the fabric, for lack of a better term. i have used a few different 'cold peel' products with bad results.
i have not found any 'quality' 5-panel caps (no seam). other than the trucker style, which i wouldn't call 'quality' but it does sell well - because it is cheap!
 
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Here are some examples of vinyl on hats.
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Here are some examples of vinyl on hats.
SHWEET! Those are awesome! What cutter did you use to get that fine of detail on the last two?


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Default Re: Heat press vinyl on hats?

Its a secret,,, not,,, I can't tell you on the board because of self promotion rules,,,

But I can tell you I used a 57 degree blade...
 
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Its a secret,,, not,,, I can't tell you on the board because of self promotion rules,,,

But I can tell you I used a 57 degree blade...
Pretty sure this isn't self promotion if you are giving information on what cutter you used.
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Default Re: Heat press vinyl on hats?

Ok, well the first and last one I did with a copam and the one in the center I used the Falcon.
I might add that the fine detail is for one or two of's and would be a little on the difficult side to do longer runs.

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Default Re: Heat press vinyl on hats?

Ok, here's a typically newbie question: What is a 57 degree blade, why was this what you used, and where do you get them?

I'm am pretty much self-taught (which makes me dangerous, but not necessisarily competent), and I have been contemplating why certain blades are used, and what's the worse that can happen if I use a different blade? For example, a lot of the regular vinyl (FirstMark - Sign Warehouse and those comparable) suggest a 45 degree blade - so what's the worst that can happen if I happen to have a 60 degree blade in my cutter and decide to use that instead. I actually have some 30 degree blades, but I have no idea what I would use them for
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The reason i used a 57 is that in my opinion they cut flock and glitter better than a 45, some use a 60 and you can use the 60 with no problems, if you are not cutting a lot of specialty materials then the 60 will do just fine,,
 
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What hat material do you normally use? I am picking up an assortment of hats to experiment with. What type of vinyl do you typically use?

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I use a variety of vinyl depending on the design. Basic Eco Film from Imprintables is great. I love the glitter and megatallics as well.
 
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The reason i used a 57 is that in my opinion they cut flock and glitter better than a 45, some use a 60 and you can use the 60 with no problems, if you are not cutting a lot of specialty materials then the 60 will do just fine,,
Hey Roger!!!!

I have been wondering just how to use your glitter vinyl for adults...... and your hats have just inspired me!!!!!
AWESOME HATS ROGER!!!!!!!

questions........

Hat press....
1. what hat press did you use for these hats?
2. what was your temp?
3. pressure?
4. time?
5. Did you press the rhinestones on at the same time as the vinyl/glitter vinyl?

Cutter.....
1. Do you know if the 57° blade will fit the graphtec CE5000-60? (comparable to the Roland GX-24)
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Default Re: Heat press vinyl on hats?

Well I just used a mighty press hat press medium to firm pressure, 320 degrees and about 20 seconds, I also used a small t-pad it under the hat to bring that image up a little.

the rhinestone hat is glitter, flock and stones,, pressed the glitter first then the flock and then the stones, you should be able to get that blade for your Graphtec...
 
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I'm always impressed what some of you guys are capable of doing.
Many thanks Roger.
 
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