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poker · June 19th, 2009

I've never seen the quality of an Epson R1900 with JetSoft paper. Assuming the art is great and the t-shirt blank is good, is the quality of the print good enough for a $10, $15, or >$20 t-shirt?

Thanks in advance.

vctradingcubao · June 21st, 2009

Not really sure about your market, but sorry, I think it would be too pricey for inkjet transferred shirts, specially on dark tees (is jetsoft for lights or is it opaque?). We regularly use transfers but I always tell our designer clients that screenprinting and DTG should be the first and second choices to use for printing on cotton shirts intended for retail sales.

Girlzndollz · June 21st, 2009

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	I've never seen the quality of an Epson R1900

I believe that printer uses pigment ink. You should be fine with that ink. Just double check the printer specs at Epson.com to be sure.

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	with JetSoft paper.

What is JetSoft paper? Is that the actual name of the paper, or are you referring to Jetpro Sofstretch.

If you are talking about Jetpro Sofstretch, that's about the best light/white paper on the market today, imho. If you are talking about another paper called JetSoft, I have no idea how that paper holds up. Sorry.

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	Assuming the art is great

Assuming art is great is a matter of opinion. The opinion of the buyer matters most.

Plenty of times on the forum I read how someone thought Design A would be a hit, but Design B, what they thought of as a sleeper, took off and was super popular. There's no sure fire way, until you put your stuff out there, to know what will and what won't sell. That's just from what I've read a hundred times on the forum.

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	and the t-shirt blank is good,

Your blank should match your target market. What blank do you have in mind?

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	is the quality of the print good enough for a $10, $15, or >$20 t-shirt?

In my opinion, this is fairly impossible to answer. What is your target market, what is JetSoft paper, what is your blank, where are you selling from, what is your plan to market them?

So many people would love it if it was that easy to answer this question. But it can't be done.

What "should" sell and what "does" sell are sometimes very different. What you "should" be able to charge, and what the market "in reality" will pay, is also sometimes very different.

There are also times when person A can try to sell the same product as person B, but can't command the same dollar.

When you have variables just like location, local markets and local economys, there's just no real way to peg this down.

Suggestion:

Do get experience with the Epson 1900 printer, with the JetSoft paper, with the great art, on the great blank, and try to put it out to market.

Your mark up will depend on your costs and overhead, so that will in part determine what you need to charge to cover your time, materials, overhead, etc, plus profit.

The market will tell you what you can charge for your product. It's that simple. I hope they treat you nicely.

poker · June 22nd, 2009

My apologies....I mean JetPro Soft Stretch.

Thanks for your comment and suggestions. I was subconciously fishing for someone to come out and say, "yes, I sell shirts using an Epson 1900 printer and heat transfer on a regular basis."

I think I'll stick with my orginal plan which is to order our designs on a plastisol heat transfer and press them ourselves.

I'm surprised not more people chimed in becuase there is so much talk here about Epson 1400, 1800, and 1900. I'm just having a hard time visualizing how it's being used in their business.

vctradingcubao · June 22nd, 2009

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	I'm surprised not more people chimed in becuase there is so much talk here about Epson 1400, 1800, and 1900. I'm just having a hard time visualizing how it's being used in their business.

I think they're being used by "print service providers"; more like, customer brings their own designs, wanting to print a few of them on shirts (and they can't find a screenprinter to do them because of restrictions such as low quantity, rush schedule, photograph-like or too many colors, etc.).

Girlzndollz · June 22nd, 2009

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	My apologies....I mean JetPro Soft Stretch.

Tis okay. With the dizzying array of paper names out there, it's hard to assume what someone may really mean.

Thanks for the clarification. The paper makes a big difference when it comes to retail sales worthiness. =)

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	I think I'll stick with my orginal plan which is to order our designs on a plastisol heat transfer and press them ourselves.

This is a good plan, too. You could, since you have the 1900 and the JPSS paper, and the heat press, offer both products. If you have any interest in testing the market on JPSS, sounds like you have everything you need to see what your customers think of it.

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	I'm surprised not more people chimed in becuase there is so much talk here about Epson 1400, 1800, and 1900. I'm just having a hard time visualizing how it's being used in their business.

Maybe it is because it's the summer and folks are either really busy, or on vacation. It's family reunion time, VBS time, etc, and JPSS seems to fill the niche for alot of these type of tees for some of the people on here that are:

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	"yes, I sell shirts using an Epson 1900 printer and heat transfer on a regular basis."

Because there are people on here that do offer this as their product. They just haven't chimed in.

You know, some people who offer screen printing, DTG, vinyl, plastisols... even offer JPSS in their line up because of the niche it fills. That says alot about the product, imho.

Best wishes to you. Good luck with your venture. =)

mrdavid · June 23rd, 2009

I do use JPSS and make good money using it get $12 to 15 per shirt 100 percent cotton,,50/50 shirts get $15-$20,,Bamboo get $20-$30 per shirt!!!

And yes they are all light color shirts!!!!

I will only use plastisols for dark so it will depend on how hard you sell and all ways tell the customer what you are using!!!!

nottypical · June 23rd, 2009

I use JPSS with a R1900. For a transfer I think the prints are very good.

MotoskinGraphix · June 23rd, 2009

Funny...I started with the c-120 8.5x11" jpss and quickly found limitations in the size. Picked up the 1400 and the roll of jpss13"x100' made a few tees and now want to go even larger. I'm going to have to get a new large format heatpress and printer to ever really be satisfied.

mrdavid · June 23rd, 2009

nice Shirt I am using 1400 and 13x17 sheets you can get 13x19 kelly had posted about it..

MotoskinGraphix · June 23rd, 2009

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	nice Shirt I am using 1400 and 13x17 sheets you can get 13x19 kelly had posted about it..

I have the roll...13"x100 feet. The next roll size up is 17"x 100 feet. The design in the pic is 13"x15".

poker · June 23rd, 2009

Thanks for sharing your experience. the more I read the more I understand but I still have questions

When I have a design, how do I decide to print it myself on JPSS versus sending it out for plastisol transfers. Based on MrDavid's post, he uses JPSS on light fabrics and plastisol for dark. What other factors should I consider when deciding between the two?

Thanks in advance.

poker · June 23rd, 2009

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	Funny...I started with the c-120 8.5x11" jpss and quickly found limitations in the size. Picked up the 1400 and the roll of jpss13"x100' made a few tees and now want to go even larger. I'm going to have to get a new large format heatpress and printer to ever really be satisfied.

Did you use a cutter for this design?

In another thread, Girlzndollz posted a sample using JPSS and she didn't cut the design. I couldn't see the transfer paper in her pics.

Is having a cutter a good idea for other types of designs?

I wish I could see JPSS transfer on a shirt in person. I think that's why I have so many questions.

MotoskinGraphix · June 23rd, 2009

I have a Roland cx-24 cutter but it doesnt have optical registration. I dont use a cutter with jpss but just trim a bit with an exacto blade.

Girlzndollz · June 23rd, 2009

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	you can get 13x19 kelly had posted about it..

Yes, that's right. Mike at www.tshirtsupplies.com has the 13x19 size JPSS, perfect for the 1400 since that's the largest size it takes.

You can call him or contact him via the website to order it. I think he's adding it to the site soon, but it can be ordered these other ways until then.

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