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Old April 14th, 2009 Apr 14, 2009 6:46:21 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Halftones in transfers, possible and how?

I have several spot color designs where one color is simply a lighter shade of another color so I am hoping I can save money by making them halftones.

Here is an example, the pencil is Pantone 136 while the pencil point is 40% Pantone 136. I've already asked one printer who said they cannot do this and it would need to be two different spot colors. Obviously you can screenprint halftones so there must be a way to do this.
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I have several spot color designs where one color is simply a lighter shade of another color so I am hoping I can save money by making them halftones.

Here is an example, the pencil is Pantone 136 while the pencil point is 40% Pantone 136. I've already asked one printer who said they cannot do this and it would need to be two different spot colors. Obviously you can screenprint halftones so there must be a way to do this.
Try Ghostscript. Here is a thread with tutotial:

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Old April 15th, 2009 Apr 15, 2009 2:03:08 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Halftones in transfers, possible and how?

Get a new printer, this is basic stuff.
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Get a new printer, this is basic stuff.
Suggestions? You realize I need a transfer vendor, not just a screenprinter.
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And what would this do for me?
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Default Re: Halftones in transfers, possible and how?

Do you screenprint in-house? Doing transfers in house in-house is pretty easy. Getting 100% of the little dots to transfer is kind of a crap shoot and I'll bet transfer printers won't do it because of fear that their product will be returned as imperfect. If you could set up some kind of relationship where you have an understanding with the transfer printer that what you're doing is always a little inconsistent (like discharge, brushed foil, etc.), they'd probably go for it. I might even do it =)
 
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Default Re: Halftones in transfers, possible and how?

I used to screenprint about twenty years ago but now I'm just doing transfers.
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And what would this do for me?
You create prn halftone file from your application program by using postscript printer driver. Ghostscript will print the prn file in halftone using any printer.
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You create prn halftone file from your application program by using postscript printer dirver. Ghostscript will print the prn file in halftone using any printer.
I know what Ghostscript is used for but I'm not the printer, I don't need to produce positives. I could produce the PRN files myself but I doubt most vendors are going to accept it.

Originally I wasn't sure how to ask the question so I maybe I phrased it poorly... my question comes in two parts:

1) I want to find a transfer vendor who will produce halftoned spot color transfers.
2) I wanted to make sure I'm setting the file up correctly (if) I do find someone.

It doesn't seem that anyone here has experience with halftones in transfers so it looks like I'll just have to keep contacting printers individually.

Right now the halftone part is a 40% pantone which I hoped the RIP software will render as halftones when the printer rips the file. But almost all my experience is squeegee side so I'm not sure.
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Default Re: Halftones in transfers, possible and how?

You can print a color proof through a RIP and this will create halftones on your print. I assume you are not talking screen printed transfers, but inkjet transfers.
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Default Re: Halftones in transfers, possible and how?

No, screenprinted transfers. I would have no need to reduce the number of colors if they were being printed on an inkjet.



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Default Re: Halftones in transfers, possible and how?

Sorry I misread your first post.....
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Default Re: Halftones in transfers, possible and how?

FYI, I have heard from both Howards and Ace that they will print halftone spot color.
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Is this what you are trying to do?
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Default Re: Halftones in transfers, possible and how?

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Is this what you are trying to do?
No. I'm going to use a halftone on the sharpened bit of pencil to give the appearance of a different color without actually paying for a different color. This way I can reduce a 6 color image to a 5 color image and save some money. Attached is a crude idea of what I'm talking about although the halftones should end up much smaller. The eye will see some of the shirt color and some of the ink color so it doesn't end up looking like the same color as the main pencil.
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