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Old November 1st, 2006 Nov 1, 2006 9:26:04 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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iron all...... to me......... at this moment........ sucks!!




Or I'm just having a hard time with it... you be the judge....


I just bought a new black cartage a week ago..
I printed some transfers.....

everything is ok.....

a couple days latter....

I go to print something and the iron all paper jams in my printer (c88)
the little white flakes are all in my printer

I try to print again... the same thing happens.
it jams when printing the black...


ok so then I put a regular paper in the printer ... and do a sample print... and it comes out normal.... except with black marks on the paper from the first time it jamed...


then I try it with the iron all again and it james again...

I try to clean the printer with a towel...... by just dabing the paper in the printer and the towel comes out all black.

then the printer says its running out of black in again.. after I just replaced it with a new one......

And to add to my luck..... I burned my arm with the heat press... (just a little)

I was just trying to make myself a shirt for halloween.
(it said..... "Real Witch")

So I waisted about 5 pages of transfer paper and I'm stuck, in the meantime I got orders coming in and I cant do anyshirts till I order new transfer sheets and get some more black ink.



ok so my lesson from this is ?????????

Try using a different paper, and get the bulk ink system.

I still need to clean my printer,.... but dont know how... I already tried cleaning the heads, (by selecting the maintanence option)
but there is still tinny bits of iron all paper in my printer.


Any one else got any ideas.

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Old November 1st, 2006 Nov 1, 2006 10:15:28 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Is this hell? ironall issues

The jamming problem seems to be an issue with ironall paper. People have said that once you get past the issues, the results are the best they've seen. I just ordered some paper to try and I'm willing to put up with a little fuss to put out a quality product. Another member, Badalou, using this paper and has good results along with a video. I'm sure he will post something on this and give you a hand. I'm also looking into the C88 printer so let me know if you make any adjustments. You may want to check the dpi when printing. Don't use the max dpi for photos. Keep it around 300 from what I've been told.
 
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Default Re: Is this hell? ironall issues

Take the paper, and roll ut up into a cylinder shape, with the film on the outside . Then put the paper into your c88, so that the paper is curing towards the back of the printer slightly. When you do this, it will not jam anymore.
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Old November 1st, 2006 Nov 1, 2006 12:52:50 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Take the paper, and roll ut up into a cylinder shape, with the film on the outside . Then put the paper into your c88, so that the paper is curing towards the back of the printer slightly. When you do this, it will not jam anymore.
Thanks. I haven't used the paper yet, but it's on the way. I didn't know if the jamming was due to the coating on the paper, or the thickness keeping it from curving through the paper path.
 
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Old November 1st, 2006 Nov 1, 2006 1:02:47 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: Is this hell? ironall issues

I used to have the same problem with the paper. Iron All jammed and ruined my printer (epson c84). I bought epson cx7800, since I cannot produce good prints anymore, even on regular paper. My new printer has better feed mechanism than the old one.
 
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Old November 1st, 2006 Nov 1, 2006 1:17:54 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Is this hell? ironall issues

I tried it again.. and since I've seen where the problem is, its in the part where the paper comes out of the printer.

since the paper is kind of curles in the wrong direction it james and does not let the paper come out.


I tried the rolling effect and it did not work....


I hope my printer is not ruined... I have another printer but that one does not come with the pigmented based ink. its a rx600

But what I'm thinking I will need to do is just buy different brand of transfer paper and a bulk ink system.


cuz now I'm totally out of black ink... and it wont print anything even another color that is not black. so I'm stuck again.


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Default Re: Is this hell? ironall issues

The color of ink isnt related to the problem. I know for a fact that curling the paper works, becuase I do it all the time, with no problems, and yes I have a c88. Open up the lid of the printer, and blow out all of the white flakes. Make sure the paper is positioned snugly and make sure that the paper is pushed all the way to the back of the paper slot. Put in only one sheet at a time, and make sure it is curled slightly, so that it doesnt get caught as it is going through the printer.
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ok.
I'll give it a try again..
Ay!!!

this is hard.



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ok.
I'll give it a try again..
Ay!!!

this is hard.



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Everyone goes through this though, when they first get the iron all. Eventually you will get the hang of it, just like the rest of us.
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Old November 1st, 2006 Nov 1, 2006 4:58:00 PM -   #10 (permalink)
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I hope my printer is not ruined...
You certainly wouldn't be the first (or presumably the last) to have their printer ruined by IronAll. I believe Lou went through two printers before he perfected its use in the third.
 
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I know for a fact that curling the paper works, becuase I do it all the time, with no problems, and yes I have a c88.
Could you please go into a little more detail on how to 'curl the paper'?
 
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Default Re: Is this hell? ironall issues

What I did was take the sheet of transfer paper and kind of roll it up for a bit then put it in the printer again.


but I might not be doing it right cuz it did not work for me... but I have been avoiding trying again cuz I'm so mad.
plus I ran out of ink.


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Default Re: Is this hell? ironall issues

Personally I've opted to keep using the Magic Jet/Transjet II paper, myself. It just seems like far too much hassle for too little gain to switch to IronAll for me. In addition, I believe that jdr has mentioned that TJII tends to have brighter colors as well.

Of course, this will depend on your market - our customers haven't cared or complained that the shirts have a little bit of a hand to them (still fairly light) as long as the print looks good and lasts. Other demographics may care more.
 
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The color of ink isnt related to the problem. I know for a fact that curling the paper works, becuase I do it all the time, with no problems, and yes I have a c88. Open up the lid of the printer, and blow out all of the white flakes. Make sure the paper is positioned snugly and make sure that the paper is pushed all the way to the back of the paper slot. Put in only one sheet at a time, and make sure it is curled slightly, so that it doesnt get caught as it is going through the printer.
I just bought the C88+ but haven't hooked it up yet. I ordered Ironall paper so I'll try it in a couple days when it shows up. Overall, the quality is good with the printer. I've been using an HP printer but it does not have pigment ink so I'm getting a little bleed.
 
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Still looking for some details on how to 'curl the paper'. Not sure if I should just fold the bottom edges or roll the whole sheet into a tube. Just wanted some info to avoid printer problems. Thanks in advance.
 
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