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Old October 30th, 2006 Oct 30, 2006 7:13:47 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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I used paper from Pro World and I got a little bleeding from the color. I believe I read on another post that you can limit the bleeding after the first wash by putting paper over your transfer and press the paper and/or also cover the design on the shirt and press it again to lock in the color. Is this true or am I mixing posts in my head. After reading several other posts, I am going to try a different paper (Ironall) but it may be the ink also. I use a HP 8150. I've read the epson may be a better printer with the inks they use. I also have an older Epson printer so I may hook that one up also.
 
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I think the bleeding may have to do with not using the pigment inks that an epson printer can offer, although I think I've read that HP has a type of pigment ink.
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Yes, I looked it up on the internet. They do make pigment inks now but they may only be for the new B9180 photo printer. Are all the inks for Epson pigment inks?
 
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Just the durabrite inks for Epson are pigment
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Currently HP uses a pigment for just the black ink. You'd do better to invest using pigment inks for all colors. You have to have the right mix to avoid having inks bleed; a good transfer paper, a good pigment ink, and the shirt brand are all important factors.
 
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So I would have to get a printer that allows for pigment inks.
 
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You can get a refurbished one from the Epson site and save a bundle. They are looked over better than the new ones coming off the line. But first i would try different shirt brands and different paper to see if that fixes it first.
 
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But first i would try different shirt brands and different paper to see if that fixes it first.
I really don't think these factor would really affect his problem much. When the print is bleeding it is almost definitely the inks. The other factors are important too, of course, but for other reasons.

You might be able to find a bulk ink system that will fit your HP printer and get pigmented inks (such as Magic Mix) to fill it, but if the printer is not actually designed for pigmented inks there is more of a chance of getting clogs and other such problems.

Alternatively, you can get a brand new Epson C88+ for about $100.
 
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Just the durabrite inks for Epson are pigment
The Epson Ultrachrome inks are also pigment inks. I am not sure though how they work yet in pressing as I am waiting for my press to arrive.
 
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