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Old November 3rd, 2008 Nov 3, 2008 2:46:15 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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I'm trying contour cutting for the first time. I'm printing on Paropy Dark from Joto.
The Roland is finding the art and cutting precisely where it should... but.... the smaller shapes are picking up off the backing paper during the cutting process instead of holding in place. So now I have lettering all over the place.

What setting do I need to be adjusting... and in which direction?
My settings are currently set perfectly for MultiCut vinyl.
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Default Re: Contour cutting heat transfer paper

I'm certainly no expert but have had a roland gx 24 for a number of months now..... so in my humble opinion, you may want to look at decreasing the cutting force.
I find doing a "test" for all new materials helpful.

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Default Re: Contour cutting heat transfer paper

The test pattern isn't showing much. I adjusted pressure and they all peel away nicely when I test them, but stay in place until I'm ready.

I have increased my pressure as high as 150, that cuts through both layers. 110 is where I started. 130 gives the same results as 110. And 90 doesn't do a complete cut, but at least it doesn't pick the art up.

I'm wondering if it has to do with the level of detail? Does heat transfer need really large art relative to vinyl? My font is about 36. Is this enough or asking too much of the media?

Or do I need a sharper blade for this? Is it a simple drag issue? I'm not having any problems with vinyl cutting though.
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Default Re: Contour cutting heat transfer paper

I'm sure someone will have exactly the answer you're looking for - just wondering where all the expert helpers are ??
I really don't know what the remedy in this case is but I too will be interested to find out now myself, just in case I ever run into the same problem.
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Default Re: Contour cutting heat transfer paper

Thanks for trying Donna.
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Default Re: Contour cutting heat transfer paper

Since you are cutting very thin paper you probably should do less force. I did my cutting at 70. Can't do another test now as I sold my Roland. When I did contour cutting, I used opaque for darks from Imprintables
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Default Re: Contour cutting heat transfer paper

There are two things to look at. First, you can try slowing your speed down and make sure that you are using the 60 degree blade (which is designed for detail cutting). Your distributor that sold you the cutter should be able to tell you how to do this.

The second thing has to do with the release characteristics of the transfer paper and how it stays to the paper backing. You can always try another type of transfer paper to see if the results are different. Some papers weed much easier than others. In your case, you might have a paper that weeds to easy for the designs you are doing. I have never used that paper so I don't want to say for sure if this is the case.

Hope this helps you out in finding the best solution. When you find the solution, please post it up for others in the future.

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Default Re: Contour cutting heat transfer paper

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm getting ready for a trade show tomorrow, so I probably won't have time to experiment again until Thursday.
I'll post whatever results I get... good or bad.
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Default Re: Contour cutting heat transfer paper

....you might try asking Chani.........
she knows alot about cutting transfer papers....

you also might want to check this thread out.......maybe it can help....
Graphtec CE5000, Roland GX-24, US Cutter LaserPoint: Contour Cutting (Print & Cut)
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Default Re: Contour cutting heat transfer paper

I tried playing with it again. I found the speed settings, but they made no difference. I used the settings my book recommended, they didn't work. The only thing I cannot try is using a 45Deg blade... which I just discovered, is what the manufacturer recommends.
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I tried playing with it again. I found the speed settings, but they made no difference. I used the settings my book recommended, they didn't work. The only thing I cannot try is using a 45Deg blade... which I just discovered, is what the manufacturer recommends.
Did you ever resolve this problem with the JOTO paper and contour cutting???
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Default Re: Contour cutting heat transfer paper

Thanks for the follow up.
Funds are tight right now, so I've decided to wait to get the new blade some time when cash flow is better. I have half a dozen spare 60deg blades that are doing the job for everything else, so this project is taking a back seat.
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Thanks for the follow up.
Funds are tight right now, so I've decided to wait to get the new blade some time when cash flow is better. I have half a dozen spare 60deg blades that are doing the job for everything else, so this project is taking a back seat.

COOL!
I do know about tight funds!
It will get better!

I do not have a Roland cutter, BUT....I do have a GRAPHTEC ce5000-60 which is similar to the Roland!
I have a 45° blade & a 60° blade.
AND.... I have some JOTO dark paper too!!!

I will try to contour cut the JOTO paper after I learn how to cut JPSS.

......If it cuts or if it does not ....I will let you know!

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Default Re: Contour cutting heat transfer paper

Thanks.
I'm not using the Paropy Dark which is what I think you are talking about, I'm using the Paropy Print n Cut. I believe the difference was what ink/printer it uses. Mine is the one for inkjet printers.
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I'm not using the Paropy Dark which is what I think you are talking about, I'm using the Paropy Print n Cut. I believe the difference was what ink/printer it uses. Mine is the one for inkjet printers.

"Paropy Print n Cut" is for light or dark shirts? i.e.... is this a transparent film or an opaque film?
(just describing in case anyone else reads this who doesn't know)

I have a JOTO rep...his name is David.... I will have to call him tomorrow about this material.... I did not see it on their website......??????

I use inkjet printers and laser printers.
No solvent printers yet?


Aren't "print and cut" materials usually for use w/ the solvent/eco-solvent inks???...like the versacam printer/cutter???
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