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Old October 14th, 2006 Oct 14, 2006 3:02:59 PM -   #16 (permalink)
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Nice big pic of the printed shirt.. looks like the outline of the 8.5x11 paper can still be seen.. or are those straight lines from the heatpress? have you washed it yet?

FYI from the autoart website:

Printers tested include: HP 2550, HP 4500, Oki 3100, Alps, Minolta 24xx, Minolta 61xx, Tally 8006e, Tally 8008, Lexmark C510, Lexmark C720
will do all the washing later, still playing around with the off the shelf printer (its not on the list. ).

...no trimming and looks a lot better than i thought it would. Can't really see the outline of the paper, you can sorta see where the rectangular paper pressed but im sure if i re-press it the wrinkles will go away.

...i used a sample white scrap t-shirt and im not being too delicate with the testy-testy. ...... can you imagine if the feel/look of it got better with every wash ?

... it feels great btw. Good job Ken.
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Old October 14th, 2006 Oct 14, 2006 6:22:01 PM -   #17 (permalink)
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Default Re: NEW Digital Transfer Paper: DuraCotton

So there is no hand at all? I am still a little fuzzy on whether the dye is absorbed into the fabric or sits on top.

How is the washing? The site says that film/polymer will go away after the first wash,
"No unsightly cloudy transfer film nor polymer to scissor cut away, wash away." Can't wait to see it out of the dryer Maybe you could put a flashlight in between the shirt layers and take a pic or even just separate the shirt's front and back a few inches.

Could this be the alternative to water-based screenprinting and curing.. and without the cleanup? Fingers crossed
 
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OK people, I am very confused here. Just received a email from bestimagesolutions.com
The dura cotton paper was discontinued in Jan. 2005.
 
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Old October 18th, 2006 Oct 18, 2006 11:51:42 AM -   #19 (permalink)
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Default Re: NEW Digital Transfer Paper: DuraCotton

Hi T-Bot,

I have been testing this paper for the last few months, and also had the opportunity to test the latest DuraCotton98 samples that Ken fowarded to me.

With some tweaking of heat settings and pressure & dwell times, you can get some excellent results....The polymer outline should hardly if any be visible.

I have been using this product with my sublimation set up and a high release paper with no problems - im getting very nice results....

The ' hand ' is soft even better after a cuples of washes.


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hi Nick,
nice so far, I've been printing them off my new off the shelf printer and ALSO printed them off a XEROX copy machine. So far they look good. No paper jams.

I will be printing the transfers on cotton fabric soon. (kinda busy with some big plastisol jobs right now).

....like i said, i know verry little about digital transfers so im doing this from a Newbie stand, thats for sure.

my boss had a look at my little test samples and he tells me that its amazing how only the ink goes on the shirt, no trimming. Well, he did look at it with a magnify glass and did see something there but i can't tell.

Remember, my boss was making CLC transfers before it became a big buisness...in the early 90's, i was only a baby...lol.

Here are some transfer ART/experiments he was involved with that sell for $ 40,000 each. :::: http://www.neonravenartgallery.com/carl/carl.html

will post as i do more print testing, washing etc.
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Default Re: NEW Digital Transfer Paper: DuraCotton

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OK people, I am very confused here. Just received a email from bestimagesolutions.com
The dura cotton paper was discontinued in Jan. 2005.
Having Lake House flashbacks?
 
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Default Re: NEW Digital Transfer Paper: DuraCotton

The paper wasn't dicountinued in jan 2005. Certain dealer weren't able to carry it.The old paper was for fuser oil copiers laser printers.The new paper if for none fuser oil copier printers laser.The only people that carry it you will find in the durocotton web page.U.S and Canadian dealers.Like any p[aper you will have to test it for the right setting i your printer and press.
 
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Default Re: NEW Digital Transfer Paper: DuraCotton

Thanks for clearing that up. Still having trouble getting samples.

I have a epson c88, oki 3200, hp 4550n and a Alps.
It would be SOOOO nice to have one paper fit all.

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Default Re: NEW Digital Transfer Paper: DuraCotton

Hello - thought that I would weigh in quickly;
I am printing up an order with the sheets, have been experimenting with settings, etc. Using an Oki 3200. Paper feeds in the multi-tray, normal settings, color looks great. Pressing at about 405 degrees, med-heavy pressure, for about 15 secs. too much hotter or longer and scorching is an issue. I had been having trouble peeling, but the higher temp solved that. The images look great, I have washed a test shirt twice and there is little fading. It works great! Good luck everyone!!
 
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Default Re: NEW Digital Transfer Paper: DuraCotton

Thanks for the info SciFi.
Please let us know if you have had to trim your designs or found any white outlines where you didn't trim? Was there any visible white polymer transfer at all?
My sample is on the way.
 
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I received some test paper yesterday and I think I could do a video on this as well. Interested? I don't have a laser printer but a friend does and I will go over with some designs and give it a try. I thought while I am at it I might as well video it. If it works I will be looking for a laser printer..
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Default Re: NEW Digital Transfer Paper: DuraCotton

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You use a wide format copier for transfers, right ?
I have no idea of the quality using this method, especially photos.
I need a wider print capability than a small sheet of regular paper.
With all the options in printers today for transfers would you recommend I buy a new CLC for transfers, hats, cups,..etc.. or another printer ? How does the CLC compare with inkjets, laser dye sub toner for color ?

Which gives a better result, cotton, 50/50, or polyester with the CLC.
Looking forward to seeing your finished results using the dura cotton paper.

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Default Re: NEW Digital Transfer Paper: DuraCotton

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T-BOT,
You use a wide format copier for transfers, right ?
I have no idea of the quality using this method, especially photos.
I need a wider print capability than a small sheet of regular paper.
With all the options in printers today for transfers would you recommend I buy a new CLC for transfers, hats, cups,..etc.. or another printer ? How does the CLC compare with inkjets, laser dye sub toner for color ?

Which gives a better result, cotton, 50/50, or polyester with the CLC.
Looking forward to seeing your finished results using the dura cotton paper.

Thanks,

Don
Hi Don,
In the past, we have only used CLC machines to make digital transfers, never used anything else like bubble jets etc.

In the mid 90's we used a Kodak CLC with 11x17 Photo-Trans paper, made these by the truck load and yes need to trim the transfers before application.

Today, we use a Xerox CLC machine and 11x17 Xerox Transfer Paper, much like the Photo-Transfer paper.

We mainly make plastisol transfers. We use CLC transfers on 100% and Cotton/Poly blend T-Shirts etc. Mainly. They do print on other surfaces, plexi glass, cardboard etc....need to trim them.

Never had any major complaints with these CLC Transfers printed on shirts. Of couse they need to be treated more delicate in the wash (when not using opaque backings) than screen printed plastisol transfers.

As for the CLC finish, its great. Hi detail, good color etc... Xerox CLC are very good machines.

As for the NEW Dura-cotton paper, will be doing more testing.
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Default Re: NEW Digital Transfer Paper: DuraCotton

We ordered some of this paper to try out. Hopefully we can get some results posted as well. There seems to be a backlog of orders. Lucy started a landslide and they can't keep up!
 
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Default Re: NEW Digital Transfer Paper: DuraCotton

Will this type of paper work with only lazer printers? I am just startying out and bought a epson with duribrite ink. Will this ink work?
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