Discuss the various aspects of heat press technology. Transfer paper, inks, plastisol transfers, vinyl cutters, printers, commercial usage, durability, suppliers, etc.
I have a HP Printer using the new Vista ink. I was using the Double Green Line transfer paper and just ran low so I printed a couple of my kids things on some hp transfer paper i have had for a while.
I noticed the color is a lot stronger on the hp paper than the other Like the Black is Black not a dark grey and the red is more red not pinkish.
Does anyone else use an HP with the new vista ink? What paper would be best - I would like the strongest color possible for the printer I have.
The black cartridge is pigment, the tri-color cartridges are dye.
I use the soft transfer paper from Dharmatrading.com which I believe is IronAll. Many of the people on this board use JetPro Soft Stretch, and are very happy with that.
While initially you may get brighter colors with the consumer papers such as HP, because those are not soft papers, the image will eventually crack, and possibly peel.
When printing transfers, make sure your printer is set at Normal to render 300dpi ink...using the Best setting will render 600dpi ink, and that's just too much.
There is a thread on the board here which has a link to a refurbished Epson printer selling or $39. This printer uses all dye inks (which is much better for transfers) -- and when you do the math, you're paying less for a printer with ink, than you are for just the ink. You might want to check it out.
The black cartridge is pigment, the tri-color cartridges are dye.
I use the soft transfer paper from Dharmatrading.com which I believe is IronAll. Many of the people on this board use JetPro Soft Stretch, and are very happy with that.
While initially you may get brighter colors with the consumer papers such as HP, because those are not soft papers, the image will eventually crack, and possibly peel.
When printing transfers, make sure your printer is set at Normal to render 300dpi ink...using the Best setting will render 600dpi ink, and that's just too much.
There is a thread on the board here which has a link to a refurbished Epson printer selling or $39. This printer uses all dye inks (which is much better for transfers) -- and when you do the math, you're paying less for a printer with ink, than you are for just the ink. You might want to check it out.
Thanks - Yes i just looked - vivera inks -oops
Thanks for the ink advise - I that the more ink the better/crisper color?? At least when I do fabric sheets it states that.
I will check out the link for the printer. I have been keeping my eyes open for ebay ones but I am getting a plotter/cutter in another week - so I probably will wait until around Christmas for the printer - unless I get a few big sales with the vinyl
I will check out the other types of paper - I would never print for a customer on the hp - but doing a couple vacation shirts for the kids I didn't want to waste the rest of my green line.
The black cartridge is pigment, the tri-color cartridges are dye.
I use the soft transfer paper from Dharmatrading.com which I believe is IronAll. Many of the people on this board use JetPro Soft Stretch, and are very happy with that.
While initially you may get brighter colors with the consumer papers such as HP, because those are not soft papers, the image will eventually crack, and possibly peel.
When printing transfers, make sure your printer is set at Normal to render 300dpi ink...using the Best setting will render 600dpi ink, and that's just too much.
There is a thread on the board here which has a link to a refurbished Epson printer selling or $39. This printer uses all dye inks (which is much better for transfers) -- and when you do the math, you're paying less for a printer with ink, than you are for just the ink. You might want to check it out.
I forgot to ask - can this epson be used like I have read where you get the refill kits to hook up to it (with the adapter) and is there really that much difference with the ink? Is it truer colors, brighter colors?? I love my printer but someday want to to sub transfers too.
OH - My black is Pigment?? Can I do "black only" sub transfers then??
Last edited by SewDarnHot; August 20th, 2008 at 12:57 PM.
The black cartridge is pigment, the tri-color cartridges are dye.
I use the soft transfer paper from Dharmatrading.com which I believe is IronAll. Many of the people on this board use JetPro Soft Stretch, and are very happy with that.
While initially you may get brighter colors with the consumer papers such as HP, because those are not soft papers, the image will eventually crack, and possibly peel.
When printing transfers, make sure your printer is set at Normal to render 300dpi ink...using the Best setting will render 600dpi ink, and that's just too much.
There is a thread on the board here which has a link to a refurbished Epson printer selling or $39. This printer uses all dye inks (which is much better for transfers) -- and when you do the math, you're paying less for a printer with ink, than you are for just the ink. You might want to check it out.
The Epson C-120 uses pigment inks not dye inks. Pigment inks are what you want for inkjet transfers.
I forgot to ask - can this epson be used like I have read where you get the refill kits to hook up to it (with the adapter) and is there really that much difference with the ink? Is it truer colors, brighter colors?? I love my printer but someday want to to sub transfers too.
OH - My black is Pigment?? Can I do "black only" sub transfers then??
Sub transfers meaning Dye-Sublimation I assume is your question. Dye Sub inks are completely different from inkjet transfer inks such as dye based inks or pigment inks. Dye sub inks require a special transfer paper and light colored polyester substrates. Dye sub inks and dye based inks are different.
The Epson C-120 uses pigment inks not dye inks. Pigment inks are what you want for inkjet transfers.
Think you made a typo.
I currently use dye inks with little - no issues for regular inkjet transfers.
I would however like to be able to do sub printing as I have a mug press too. I thought piment inks are used for the sub process - is that not correct??
The poster was referring to the inks currently in my machine not the Epson.
You can use any inks for transfers - of course some are better than others
yes - I was speaking of Sublimation printing and I thought the pigment inks were the inks used for sub printing.
The black cartridge is pigment, the tri-color cartridges are dye.
I forgot to mention that the HP C5180 is the one I use and it has seperate cartriges. not a tri-color (5 colors and 1 black)
Guess I need to research more
Last edited by SewDarnHot; August 20th, 2008 at 02:37 PM.
Thanks a bunch everyone - boy I still have a bunch to learn.
I just ordered a new printer from the sale!!
I'm bery exited to run my tests.
I wanted to make sure I didn't miss the sale and we leave in a few days for vacation - so I had it delivered to DH work At least there will be someone there to get it! Thanks again for all the help. Now to see how it works with my double green line and try a couple Dark transfer papers.
HP printer -vista ink - Best transfer paper? 
Like the Black is Black not a dark grey and the red is more red not pinkish. 
