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Which & when ? ....Plastisol/ pigment



 
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Old July 28th, 2008 Jul 28, 2008 2:56:12 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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when do you use the Plastisol Transfers over pigment ink transfers of an image…for what kind of image …how to decide …how do you decide which one to use either or for ? ...whats so good or better about Plastisol Transfers then my regular pigment transfers of the same image , pattern or graphic ,logo designs etc When is it best For what jobs?
 
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My deciding factors to use plastisol transfers (vs inkjet transfers):
1 - When I want to print on a dark shirt.
2 - When I need to print more than 20 shirts of one design.
3 - When I get a wholesale order.
4 - When I spend 1/2 the day trying to get my printer to print correctly and want to throw it out the window.
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Soooo true Rhonda,,
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My deciding factors to use plastisol transfers (vs inkjet transfers):
1 - When I want to print on a dark shirt.
2 - When I need to print more than 20 shirts of one design.
3 - When I get a wholesale order.
4 - When I spend 1/2 the day trying to get my printer to print correctly and want to throw it out the window.

So what inkjet transfers dont print well on dark colors?
 
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If you use transfers on a dark shirt you will have to contour cut the image very closely as with plastisol you don't have to do that.
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So what inkjet transfers dont print well on dark colors?
I haven't found any inkjet transfers for darks that I like, but I also haven't tried that many. I think Iron All for Darks might be the preferred one out there at the moment.

Another benefit to plastisol is you don't have to trim anything.

Don't get me wrong .... I started off with inkjet transfers over 2 years ago and still use them. Plastisol transfers are just so much easier to deal with, but that's just my opinion.
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ok now im getting somewhere...Thinks


also do plastisol onto shirts look better & have a different texture then pigment ?

and can a real persons picture be done by using plastisol i know that it can be done with pigment transfers!

or is it just that plastisol are better for using shapes and drawings and logos etc only things of that nature designs then like an actual photo?


plus being able to not have to trim is a true benefit but isnt it expensive like $2.00 or more a transfer sheet? out house plastisol companys?
 
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ok now im getting somewhere...Thinks


also do plastisol onto shirts look better & have a different texture then pigment ?

and can a real persons picture be done by using plastisol i know that it can be done with pigment transfers!

or is it just that plastisol are better for using shapes and drawings and logos etc only things of that nature designs then like an actual photo?


plus being able to not have to trim is a true benefit but isnt it expensive like $2.00 or more a transfer sheet? out house plastisol companys?
Hi Samantha, here are 2 great threads that break down each of the different printing processes and give the pros and cons of each:

Pros and Cons of Each T-Shirt Printing Method

What is the Quality of Different T-Shirt Printing Methods? A list in general order.

Those two threads will give you a better idea of the limitations and qualities of the different processes.
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also do plastisol onto shirts look better & have a different texture then pigment ?
Yes, plastisol transfers feel just like a screen printed t-shirts.

Inkjet transfers (done with pigment ink) feel differently and don't have the same quality.

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and can a real persons picture be done by using plastisol i know that it can be done with pigment transfers!

Yes, you can do photographs with plastisol transfers, but the finished look will look different than an inkjet transfer.

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or is it just that plastisol are better for using shapes and drawings and logos etc only things of that nature designs then like an actual photo?
It depends on your expectations and the factors that Rhonda mentioned above in her post (quantity, shirt color, etc)

But if you are doing a "one off" design (just one or 2), then an inkjet transfer will probably be a better choice than a plastisol transfer.

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plus being able to not have to trim is a true benefit but isnt it expensive like $2.00 or more a transfer sheet? out house plastisol companys?
The price depends on the design being printed and the quantity.


You will find that a lot of answers are "it depends". There isn't one process that is the BEST for *everything*.

You just have to look at the specific job and find the right printing method to produce THAT job.

Sometimes that will be a plastisol transfer, sometimes that might be an inkjet transfer, sometimes that might be outsourcing it to a DTG printer, sometimes that might mean outsourcing it to a screen printer.

After a while of learning and reading about the different processes, you'll get a better idea of which is better for each specific job.
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Hi Samantha, here are 2 great threads that break down each of the different printing processes and give the pros and cons of each:

Pros and Cons of Each T-Shirt Printing Method

What is the Quality of Different T-Shirt Printing Methods? A list in general order.

Those two threads will give you a better idea of the limitations and qualities of the different processes.


THINK YOU...


But not to come off sounding rude because believe me im not im far from that but i read those full threads 2 months ago..before i signed up to become a member on the Featured Threads list...

so i guess im just not getting something or getting it myself because i felt as though i had the full understanding of them all ...


and no i havent read the full (T-Shirtforum.com ) but i do appreciate when you offer me advice on threads to read and check out...keep it up maybe ill end up on the right track to understanding better..(maybe ill try to read them all over again tomorrow
 
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yes, plastisol transfers feel just like a screen printed t-shirts.

Inkjet transfers (done with pigment ink) feel differently and don't have the same quality.




Yes, you can do photographs with plastisol transfers, but the finished look will look different than an inkjet transfer.



It depends on your expectations and the factors that rhonda mentioned above in her post (quantity, shirt color, etc)

but if you are doing a "one off" design (just one or 2), then an inkjet transfer will probably be a better choice than a plastisol transfer.



The price depends on the design being printed and the quantity.


You will find that a lot of answers are "it depends". There isn't one process that is the best for *everything*.

You just have to look at the specific job and find the right printing method to produce that job.

Sometimes that will be a plastisol transfer, sometimes that might be an inkjet transfer, sometimes that might be outsourcing it to a dtg printer, sometimes that might mean outsourcing it to a screen printer.

After a while of learning and reading about the different processes, you'll get a better idea of which is better for each specific job.

good looking out rodney your the best...
 
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Yes, you can do photographs with plastisol transfers, but the finished look will look different than an inkjet transfer.


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but in your opinion will it look realistic ...and which would look better to to ?
 
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But not to come off sounding rude because believe me im not im far from that but i read those full threads 2 months ago..before i signed up to become a member on the Featured Threads list...
Good to know. Sometimes they are a great starting point that will explain it all, and sometimes some people will need further clarification. No worries

Since you didn't mention you had already read it and since the question you asked was answered in both of those threads, I figured I would take the time to mention it, since those 2 threads have helped a lot of people gain a better understanding of things
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