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No print place will touch my ImageClip transfers-fearing it will ruin their equipment



 
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Old July 20th, 2008 Jul 20, 2008 2:08:21 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default No print place will touch my ImageClip transfers-fearing it will ruin their equipment

I don't have my own Laser Printer that can do 11" x 17". I have to go to an outside source.

I went to Office Max, gave the girl there my disc and transfers and she printed what I needed. One got stuck in the printer, it looked slightly melted, but she shrugged it off and did all the rest with a manual fed, and it worked great with no problem. Maybe the one melted since it got stuck.

When I went back to get more printed it was some other worker, and he wouldn't do it, saying laser heat transfers will melt and ruin the machine. There was no convincing him, even when I showed him a printed one and a worker just a day ago did them. He stated that she was new here and uninformed to our policies.

So I go to Staples, and the lady refused with the same reasoning. I went to Kinko's and again the paper got stuck because the person would not manual feed it, even when I warned her and asked her to.

Very frustrated at this point, I went to the do-it-yourself station at kinko's, using a manual feed printer. Hoping this was the ticket of "if you can't have some one do it, then do it yourself". But the laser printer ink would not get warm enough to stick to the glossy transfer paper after 3 tries, making a powder-y mess.

What can I do here without having my own laser printer, or the money to afford one right now? I need some help here. I want laser prints.
 
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Old July 20th, 2008 Jul 20, 2008 4:18:14 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: No print place will touch my ImageClip transfers-fearing it will ruin their equipment

unfortunately, I think you are stuck....Unless you can find someone either on the forum or my an ad in local paper to get someone to print for you. I have heard that most copy places do not want to use other than regular paper.
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Old July 20th, 2008 Jul 20, 2008 5:35:01 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: No print place will touch my ImageClip transfers-fearing it will ruin their equipment

Take it to someone like instant print or jiffy print they work with heat transfers daily. They even have there on transfer paper. Don't give up.
 
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Old July 20th, 2008 Jul 20, 2008 5:49:46 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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I have seen more than one fuser roller ruined by transfers and they are very expensive to replace. The big machines are expected to produce $5-10K per day in sales, places like Kinko's can't take the risk of losing a day's production for the sake of a $10 order.
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Old July 20th, 2008 Jul 20, 2008 6:02:40 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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I don't know what a fuser roller is but I do know that Kinko's pays min. wage, they caution employs if its iffy don't do it. Real printer do it ever day.
 
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Old July 20th, 2008 Jul 20, 2008 7:22:30 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: No print place will touch my ImageClip transfers-fearing it will ruin their equipment

Those big xerox machines, especially the newer models, run very very hot. About the only paper made for those copiers is the Techniprint brand. Honestly, I use a local Staples store to print my images but only the manager and another worker there that knows me well will run my prints.

At this point I am in the market for the very best (long lasting prints) laser transfer paper in 8.5" x 11" size. I'll leave the larger prints to other businesses. The leading heat transfer place in my city only does lights and 8.5 x 11 size. They are using a laser printer but I have no idea what paper they are using.
 
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I don't know what a fuser roller is but I do know that Kinko's pays min. wage, they caution employs if its iffy don't do it. Real printer do it ever day.
A fuser roller is the part of a laser printer that fuses the toner to the paper, on the larger machines they are usually 400 degrees or so.
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Why even make laser transfer paper like that if it can damage the fuser roller?
 
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It is good to call the manufacturer or distributor of the transfer paper and have them recommend printers/copiers to use. They had to test it on some type of machines so they would be probably the best source of information.
 
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Default Re: No print place will touch my ImageClip transfers-fearing it will ruin their equipment

I called every printing place in my area, about 10 or so. As soon as I mention heat transfer and laser printer in the same sentence, they basically hang up on me. I never realized getting someone to print my transfers would be this difficult.
 
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Old July 21st, 2008 Jul 21, 2008 11:46:12 AM -   #11 (permalink)
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Default Re: No print place will touch my ImageClip transfers-fearing it will ruin their equipment

I had one piece of DuraCotton curl up into my fuser very recently. It didn't ruin the fuser but it did ruin the printer. Okidata had a run of 5800s that have a known flaw and as a result they will not recover from this particular error state so they sent me a new printer shell free. Whew! I am now careful to uncurl my papers and I keep them sealed and zip locked because of the moisture where I live. I can understand why copy centers will not run heat transfer paper through their machines.
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Very frustrated at this point, I went to the do-it-yourself station at kinko's, using a manual feed printer. Hoping this was the ticket of "if you can't have some one do it, then do it yourself". But the laser printer ink would not get warm enough to stick to the glossy transfer paper after 3 tries, making a powder-y mess.
If you still have access to the laser printer that you used before, go to the printer property and click on the preferences or have somebody that handles the printer do it for you. Change the weight to Ultra heavy or card stock or label or any setting in the printer that relates to the heaviest media weight and the source to Multi Purpose tray or manual feed. I use Ultra heavy weight with my Okidata laser printer for Imageclip in order for the toner to fuse properly. The heavier the media weight setting the hotter the printer sets the fuser temp. Imageclip requires high temp to fuse properly.
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Default Re: No print place will touch my ImageClip transfers-fearing it will ruin their equipment

While I am unsure if you need special toner or DPI but if any laser will work you can get a decent color laser for under $750 online. (and by decent I don't mean the $199 Staples color lasers)
 
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While I am unsure if you need special toner or DPI but if any laser will work you can get a decent color laser for under $750 online. (and by decent I don't mean the $199 Staples color lasers)
Tabloid color laser printer does not come anyhwere near $750.00
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Default Re: No print place will touch my ImageClip transfers-fearing it will ruin their equipment

Being you quoted what I wrote, I am pretty confident that you did indeed read it. I also feel, that I stated I wasn't sure what type of laser printed he needed, because I really wasn't familiar with what is needed for the transfer applications, but if all he needed was a laser printer. They can be purchased fairly reasonable.

I am also fairly certain my post did not contain the phrase or grouping of words that one could construe to mean and/or say that "...you can purchase a tabloid color laser printer for $750....".
 
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