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Old July 17th, 2008 Jul 17, 2008 7:56:46 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Help With Air Waves CLC Transfers

First, this forum has provided me a wealth of information!!! Thanks to the owner, mods, and members....

I am starting to add some novelty stuff to my shipping store. I am fairly adept on computer graphics, the printing aspects, etc. I am using a KM 350 biz hub to print 10x14 size transfers. The printing on the paper is outstanding. So up to this point, I am very confident.

I have been practicing putting small transfers all over shirts. However, I am getting mixed results and am having trouble dialing this one in for pressing.

All the transfers seem to stick to the fabric and literally have to be peeled off. This tends to leave less than desirable results. The bigger the transfer the harder it seems to get the transfer off.

I varied heat, tension, and length of press with the same undesired results. I do realize that I need to gain experience to get good at this; however, I would really appreciate if you guys can push me into the right direction. I do have the feeling that I am missing the boat on this one, so feel free to point it out.

I am fun doing some of the designs, so you can make my day if you help me figure this one out!!!

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Old July 17th, 2008 Jul 17, 2008 8:01:08 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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matt are you peeling them right away, if it is a hot peel you need to peel fast.
Please let me know what kind of transfers you are peeling and temp and time. thanks
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Old July 18th, 2008 Jul 18, 2008 7:11:44 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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I am peeling them as quickly as I can. I am using the Supreme Color Laser Heat Transfer paper. The application instructions say temp should be 375-390 for 8-12 seconds on a commercial press.

I have tried different temp and time settings in that range, with the time up to 40 secs. So far, the better results have been around 390 for 35 seconds.

Something just tells me that I am missing the boat here. Thanks, all help is appreciate.

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Old July 18th, 2008 Jul 18, 2008 7:35:35 AM -   #4 (permalink)
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I set my press to 385, and i have never used that paper,, do you have any other paper, to try, if not, go get some walmart of office max paper, not to use for real make sure it is for lights,, and print and press, and see if there is a difference, in the peel.
I press for 18 seconds,, on transfers from xit i press for 23 seconds, the directions do not state this time, it is a tested time and temp that work for me,,
Now there are peels that are cold peels, I dont think that paper is a cold peel or it wold tell you.
I have pressed alot of airwaves transfers,,,with success.
are these new or off ebay or someplace,,
let me know after you press the other paper.
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Old July 18th, 2008 Jul 18, 2008 11:10:09 AM -   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: Help With Air Waves CLC Transfers

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All the transfers seem to stick to the fabric and literally have to be peeled off. This tends to leave less than desirable results. The bigger the transfer the harder it seems to get the transfer off....I am fun doing some of the designs, so you can make my day if you help me figure this one out!!!
Most likely your press is running a bit colder than what your dial says... raise the temp up 20 deg F. If its still tough to peel, add another 10-20 degrees. Your problem should go away.
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Old July 18th, 2008 Jul 18, 2008 12:21:31 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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Are you pressing on dark or light shirts. Is it a transfer for light or a opaque for dark. Check also the press are you pressing firm or medium. What heat press are you using. You will have to try samples light pressure 12 sec or 20 sec, 375 or 400. You will find what works for you. The instruction are only a guidline but you will always have to play with your equipment.
 
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Old July 19th, 2008 Jul 19, 2008 12:47:03 AM -   #7 (permalink)
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I press at 400F, for 10-15 seconds, very heavy pressusre then peel hot imediately diagonally from top corner in one continous motion. Try not lift the shirt with the transfer paper to keep the part of the transfer on the shirt hot as you peel.
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Old July 19th, 2008 Jul 19, 2008 7:17:00 AM -   #8 (permalink)
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I am printing 10x14 designs on light colored shirts.

I made a small gang sheet and the small images seem to do better. I tried a couple on a hotter temp up to 415 degrees for a varied number of seconds. Those results were not good and left a nice yellowish mark where the press was.

I realize that I need to peel it immediately, and think that I need to get a technique of getting it off the shirts. It seems that I can get about half off looking the way it should and the other half with blotching (for lack of better words, where the color is no longer solid). Look at the picture I attached.



Again, I will be practicing until it get it down. All the input has been helpful? What are the indications you see for pressing such as too cold, too hot, too much/less tension, too long/short press? When this paper works, it really works nice and has the durability in the wash.

Also, I am utilizing a konica 450 biz hub that oil less color laser printer at high temp. Is anyone using a similar laser printer? If so, what is there recommendation of transfer paper?
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I am printing 10x14 designs on light colored shirts.

I made a small gang sheet and the small images seem to do better. I tried a couple on a hotter temp up to 415 degrees for a varied number of seconds. Those results were not good and left a nice yellowish mark where the press was.

I realize that I need to peel it immediately, and think that I need to get a technique of getting it off the shirts. It seems that I can get about half off looking the way it should and the other half with blotching (for lack of better words, where the color is no longer solid). Look at the picture I attached.

Again, I will be practicing until it get it down. All the input has been helpful? What are the indications you see for pressing such as too cold, too hot, too much/less tension, too long/short press? When this paper works, it really works nice and has the durability in the wash.

Also, I am utilizing a konica 450 biz hub that oil less color laser printer at high temp. Is anyone using a similar laser printer? If so, what is there recommendation of transfer paper?
You can minimize the yellowing by using teflon sheet.

Too cold, too short dwell time or low pressure obviously yields bad image transfer - blotchy or distressed look.
Too hot will scorch the fabric.

I press really hard which is beyond the digital display of my press can show a valid value. Not good for plastisol or puff transfers.

I would say pressure between heavy and very heavy would be good for the brand of transfer paper you are using.

My preferences of brands of laser transfer papers are 2 step Imageclip and Duracotton HT. Imageclip works with a wide range of laser printer including oil type fuser. There is Duracotton made specific for Konica laser printers.
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Default Re: Help With Air Waves CLC Transfers

It looks like that the transfers are coming out best at 375 at about 30-35 secs. No burn and the peel is still a little tough, but manageable. After the peel, I put the teflon sheet down, rub it, and press it for about 5-10 secs. So far, it it is the best results.

Thanks... All the input was great!
 
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I started using two teflon sheets a 5 mil (for baking...) and a 3 mil that came with the press. Wham!!! Every transfer came out perfert!!! I just completed a 15 shirt order with no problems. Thanks for everyone's help!!!
 
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