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Old June 21st, 2008 Jun 21, 2008 8:28:38 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Can someone please help? I began printing transfers with my Canon printer - As soon as my Epson C88 came in, I switched over. However, I'm noticing a total difference in the quality of the transfers I'm doing. The Epson transfers (I haven't changed paper) are coming out with a yellow tint to them, even leaving behind a film of yellow on the used transfer sheet. I didn't have any of these problems with my Canon. Is it really better to use Durabrite inks when doing heat transfers? If so, why? Can anyone tell me why I'm having this yellowing problem? I've wasted several tees and lots of transfer paper and I'm getting really frustrated! Help!!
 
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Epson c88 owners constantly struggle with this yellow problem... In your advanced printer settings try turning down the yellow. Mine is set: -20 yellow, +5 magenta, +5 cyan. But I have found that I have to make different settings for different papers to get a true color. As for the yellow on the rest of the sheet... does this appear after pressed or is it visible before? I have never had that problem but I'm sure someone will come up with some help for you.
 
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Can someone please help? I began printing transfers with my Canon printer - As soon as my Epson C88 came in, I switched over. However, I'm noticing a total difference in the quality of the transfers I'm doing. The Epson transfers (I haven't changed paper) are coming out with a yellow tint to them, even leaving behind a film of yellow on the used transfer sheet. I didn't have any of these problems with my Canon. Is it really better to use Durabrite inks when doing heat transfers? If so, why? Can anyone tell me why I'm having this yellowing problem? I've wasted several tees and lots of transfer paper and I'm getting really frustrated! Help!!
remember one is dye inks and the other is pigment. So the inks are different. Which format are you printing at as well. I use text/photo. Do not use best photo as it lays down too much ink. Lou
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i've read that it is because the epson inks are not made for heat transfers, but for photo printing. i've also read that there is a problem with epsons yellow ink - it does not react well to heat and therefore causes the image to yellow. i've ordered different inks with the hope that this solves the problem.
 
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I tried the heat transfer inks with the refillable carts and although some have had excellent results I went back to the factory durabrite in my c88. It just went on smoother and lasted better for me. When you get your settings right it does an excellent job... Two I did recently, the "girl power is on JPSS and the Caution sign is on Coastal inkjet opaque for darks, the color variation in the black is just reflection.

And it does take a lot of testing and trial and error to get the setup that works for you. Hope your new ink works for you
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Thanks cathy for the Durabrite tip. can you share your settings ? ...... JB
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My epson c88 settngs:
JPSS & color photo- magenta + 5 cyan +5 Yellow -25
Opaque transfer paper & regular paper - magenta + 5 cyan +5 Yellow -20
Self weeding transfer paper - magenta + 5 cyan +5 Yellow -20 saturation +20

If anybody else has different settings we would appreciate you sharing also, I still have problems with blues turning out purplish.
 
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If you transfer a blank piece of transfer paper to your shirt, does it have a yellow tint?

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Default Re: Problems with Epson C88

@Cathy, when I have blues that are too purple, I turn down the magenta. Sometimes I mess around with the contrast and bright to get the blacks much richer and tones more realistic. Otherwise, I find the same as you, I am bouncing setting around for different papers, as well as different images even on the same paper. Best regards, Kelly


@Djg, I also started with a Canon and moved to an Epson (3 so far, lol). No problems with them, I just have different models for different things. There is yellow ink left on the "backer sheet" with any paper I use with my Epsons (JPSS, Ironall), but that didn't happen with the Canon ink, I know exactly what you mean, that's the same route I followed.

Once you adjust your settings to something similar as Cathy's, things will balance out. Sometimes I pull the yellow out more, sometimes add it back to warm up the pic. Depends on the pic, but once you start playing with the settings, you get the feel for how to move them.

There's a thread you may be interested in by Melissa/Angelicendevors. She moved away from OEM durabright inks due to the yellow and the resulting color shifting. I'll give you the link, she is extremely happy with her inks. She says no more messing with the yellow tones, and the black is dark and rich, and no more color shifting. She prints her transfers and presses them trouble free now. Here is the link:

Epson Dura-Brite Inks

The savings on $$ isn't bad either! Lol, wait until you see how the costs stack up. Melissa did a great job laying the info out. I hope this link helps you out. It's the route I'm going to take when my inks are going low. Best regards, Kelly
 
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If you transfer a blank piece of transfer paper to your shirt, does it have a yellow tint?

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No, when I use Ironall of JPSS, when I do not trim the paper and leave a portion of the box or window, where there is no ink, the paper does not transfer yellow, it transfers clear.

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@Cathy, when I have blues that are too purple, I turn down the magenta. Sometimes I mess around with the contrast and bright to get the blacks much richer and tones more realistic. Otherwise, I find the same as you, I am bouncing setting around for different papers, as well as different images even on the same paper. Best regards, Kelly

Hi Kelly. The same exact thing is happening to me right now. I have a vibrant blue text that comes out an absolutely UGLY purple when I print it out on my new Epson C120. I'm going to try messing around with the those settings people have suggested. Keeping my fingers crossed since I'm not interested in wasting any more paper!
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thanks for the link! i actually have already ordered and installed the inks from inkjetcarts and although the ink is great, installation is a nightmare. it was so bad that i scrapped my brand new c88 and just bought another printer - c120 - because i was so tired of trying to get it to work right. i'm still having a bit of trouble with the cyan, although much less so than what i had been dealing with. i completely recommend ross and the gang at inkjetcarts - their ink is outstanding and the customer support is awesome. however, the installation is a pain and can quite easily be screwed up.
 
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I have a vibrant blue text that comes out an absolutely UGLY purple when I print it out on my new Epson C120. I'm going to try messing around with the those settings people have suggested. Keeping my fingers crossed since I'm not interested in wasting any more paper!
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I hear ya... it starts adding up quickly when the problems come along. I recently had a terrible banding problem, and when I thought I had it fixed on regular paper, it still showed on JPSS. What a waste of stock...

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This made me laugh.. it's so true... I say: there's only a few steps to a great transfer, but a thousand little ways to really screw it up. Once you get the system down, and the machines working just right... you just keep trying to maintain that status quo... but the most frustrating part is encountering all these little odds and ends that screw it up. If it was just a print and press method, it'd be awesome... wouldn't it?

I've yet to set up my c120, but am having silly banding with my other two epsons, still comes and goes. Now I need ink, too, from all the print head alignments and nozzle checks.. pffft. I'm getting close to moving over to vinyl and rhinestones and calling it a day. I can shift everything in that direction and still sell. Thanks for the post, Regina... just one more reminder of the headache that does come with this process. It's a great looking finished product, that's for sure, but getting there can be .

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i completely recommend ross and the gang at inkjetcarts - their ink is outstanding and the customer support is awesome. however, the installation is a pain and can quite easily be screwed up.
Thank you for another recommendation on Ross. I've been reading another thread lately, and someone had a less than great experience with customer service, but almost every other post I read is positive. I have also read again and again in posts of peeps having a terrible time setting the system up, but they say, just like you do, that the ink is great once you get passed the install. If you are still having an issue with that cart, let me know if you want a link to a pretty great thread where folks chime in how they solved problems with the same carts you have... K?
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I'd love the link! Thanks!! I am still having banding with my cyan which is causing me one of the longest and biggest headaches ever. Especially since this is the second new printer I've purchased. UGH. I'd appreciate any help available.
 
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I'd love the link! Thanks!! I am still having banding with my cyan which is causing me one of the longest and biggest headaches ever. Especially since this is the second new printer I've purchased. UGH. I'd appreciate any help available.
Sure, Djg... this thread is full of help from other users to someone having an issue with installing the carts, etc. In this thread, I wrote a post that has another "link" in it. That link is to another thread that other users tried to help someone as well... so that's two threads with info for you.

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I don't have the carts yet myself, so I don't know if any of the info will be helpful or not, or if they deal with issues that you are having, but hey, it can't hurt to see if some of these tips and tricks can help you get rid of that issue. Good luck to you, hope it works out for you.
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