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Why can't paper manufactures make a Plastisol type paper for Ink Jet Printers?



 
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Old June 13th, 2008 Jun 13, 2008 8:40:56 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Why can't paper manufactures make a Plastisol type paper for Ink Jet Printers?

I just wanted to put this out there. I don't understand why paper manufactures can't make a paper that is like Plastisol for Ink Jet printers.

I would think that it would not be that hard to produce.

I hate the Iron All for Darks, it looks like you just layed a peice of vinyl on the Tee.

I don't do Darks anymore for that reason.

Anyway, maybe if enough of you post here that would want the same as I, maybe a manufacture will listen and come up with it.
 
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Default Re: Why can't paper manufactures make a Plastisol type paper for Ink Jet Printers?

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If it wasn't hard to produce, then I'm sure they all would be making one.

The fact is that it IS hard to produce, that's why a solution doesn't exist. Inks from your printer are not opaque by nature. Plastisol ink IS opaque.

The manufacturers already know that there is a demand for it, but the ink from your printer at home just doesn't have the right stuff to make the same kind of transfer.
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Default Re: Why can't paper manufactures make a Plastisol type paper for Ink Jet Printers?

...and the opaque transfer paper is the closest and the best that the manufacturers can come up with. So you just have to find the best opaque transfer paper for your customers.
 
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Default Re: Why can't paper manufactures make a Plastisol type paper for Ink Jet Printers?

I know that Vinyl Cutters, heat presses, heat transfer material, transfer papers and heat printing supplies all at affordable prices. sells DuraCut it is a cuttable ink sheet that can be used for 1 color designs. ... JB
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Default Re: Why can't paper manufactures make a Plastisol type paper for Ink Jet Printers?

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If it wasn't hard to produce, then I'm sure they all would be making one.

The fact is that it IS hard to produce, that's why a solution doesn't exist. Inks from your printer are not opaque by nature. Plastisol ink IS opaque.

The manufacturers already know that there is a demand for it, but the ink from your printer at home just doesn't have the right stuff to make the same kind of transfer.
I would think then, a printer can be made that uses the correct ink for this type of transfer. I really don't think it would be that hard for a Printer Manufacture to produc a printer of this type.
 
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Default Re: Why can't paper manufactures make a Plastisol type paper for Ink Jet Printers?

There is a printer and it does away with the need for the paper period. It is called DTG.
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Default Re: Why can't paper manufactures make a Plastisol type paper for Ink Jet Printers?

The problem is not the paper...it is the ink! The plastisol transfer paper is a carrier much like dye sub paper is. There are no adhesive qualities of the paper. The plastisol ink has an adhesive character to it. The paper is just there to carry the ink from the screen press to the heat press.

In oder for your inkjet concept to work, the ink that comes out of your desktop printer must be able to adhere to the fabric on its own. The closest thing to this is ChromaBlast ink, but it still requires a paper with the polymer on it.

The only other way is to do what they do for Image Clip or DuraCotton. The problem with that concept is it is hard to get the waterbase ink to dry to the glossy paper without bleeding all over. If you could do this, then you can use the second step paper add the adhesive to the top of the ink. But this would only work for light transfers. So that is the going to resolve your issue of dark paper either.

It is just not possible with the current ink and paper configurations. Trust the fact that the mills have looked at a lot of different options and nothing has worked. Thus the reason for all the direct-to-garment printers.

Hope this clarifies things.

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I would think then, a printer can be made that uses the correct ink for this type of transfer. I really don't think it would be that hard for a Printer Manufacture to produc a printer of this type.
Even though it may seem "easy", that doesn't mean that it is

If it was possible, it would definitely be happening.
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