Hi, Unregistered. | Today's Posts

T-Shirt Forums
User Name
Password

Need to Register?

Forgot Your Password?


Site Navigation







+   T-Shirt Forums > T-Shirt Industry Information > Heat Press and Heat Transfers
Discuss the various aspects of heat press technology. Transfer paper, inks, plastisol transfers, vinyl cutters, printers, commercial usage, durability, suppliers, etc.

ImageClip looks faded on tshirt



 
Share This Thread Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old May 27th, 2008 May 27, 2008 7:54:36 PM -   #1 (permalink)
VPZ
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Fan

VPZ's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2007
Posts: 35
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)


Default ImageClip looks faded on tshirt

Hey guys-
I just did my first tshirt using ImageClip that actually looks half way decent, but I've got a couple of questions....
1. After I've printed the red sheet and have done the first press with the green sheet, what should my image look like? Should it be a very even layer on top of the toner? Will it be a little splotchy? I hope you are getting a really good laugh at my incredibly technical terms.
2. When I've pressed the treated red sheet to the tshirt, everything looks slightly faded or muted and anything black looks even more faded. Is this a pressure thing? Ink/printer setting issue? Temperature?
I'm using a Mighty Press, HP 3600 Laser Printer (cardstock setting) and ImageClip Transfer Paper.
Thanks for your help!
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old May 27th, 2008 May 27, 2008 9:15:48 PM -   #2 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Fan

mcohen123's Avatar
 
You can call me: Marc
Member Since: Aug 2006
Posts: 29
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 5 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)


Default Re: ImageClip looks faded on tshirt

I haven't had much experience with ImageClip transfer paper. It sounds remarkable. Just in case you're looking for the proper instructions for this type of paper I found this .pdf file online. http://www.neenah.com/technical/pdf/...p9770P0807.pdf
In general in 'performance' laser printers are much better than inkjets. But in the transfer world I believe that inkjets are much better for the job. I could be wrong but that's the feeling I have had for a long time. From surfing the forum in the past this is also what i have gathered. JUst to try i think you should buy a cheap epson 88 at your local office supply store and invest in some sofstretch transfers and see for yourself. While readinf this .pdf and other info the author was talking about oils and such. This may be what you are experiencing with the splotching. Maybe let the transfer air dry more. Or maybe you have the printer on the wrong setting. Maybe there is too much toner being put on the paper. Anyways read this .pdf and see what happens.
-Marc
__________________
Marc Cohen CuriosiTees
www.CuriosiTees.biz
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old May 27th, 2008 May 27, 2008 11:32:34 PM -   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
Certified T-Shirt Junkie


Lnfortun's Avatar
 
You can call me: Luis
Member Since: Feb 2006
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 2,678
Thanks: 182
Thanked 745 Times in 506 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)


Default Re: ImageClip looks faded on tshirt

Quote:
Originally Posted by VPZ
Hey guys-
I just did my first tshirt using ImageClip that actually looks half way decent, but I've got a couple of questions....
1. After I've printed the red sheet and have done the first press with the green sheet, what should my image look like? Should it be a very even layer on top of the toner? Will it be a little splotchy? I hope you are getting a really good laugh at my incredibly technical terms.
2. When I've pressed the treated red sheet to the tshirt, everything looks slightly faded or muted and anything black looks even more faded. Is this a pressure thing? Ink/printer setting issue? Temperature?
I'm using a Mighty Press, HP 3600 Laser Printer (cardstock setting) and ImageClip Transfer Paper.
Thanks for your help!
It sounds like you do not have good polymer adhered to the toner on the red paper.

The printed area on the red sheet should look hazy with matte finish. It is a good indication that the polymer is bonded on the toner. When you see parts of the printed area is glossy that means there is not enough or no polymer.

Your pressure might might be hard enough when pressing the two papers or the temp is not high enough. Do not let the papers cool down when peeling the papers apart.

Try these two process to prevent the papers from cooling down:

Oki C8800n + Hotronix Draw + ImageClip = SWEET!!! - T-Shirt Forums

Oki C8800n + Hotronix Draw + ImageClip = SWEET!!! - Page 2 - T-Shirt Forums

Another thing is the pressure needs to be very high when pressing the red paper on the shirt and peel hot immediately.

Can you post a picture?
__________________
Luis CorelDRAW macro author
Macro Website
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old May 28th, 2008 May 28, 2008 1:13:36 PM -   #4 (permalink)
VPZ
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Fan
Thread Starter

VPZ's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2007
Posts: 35
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)


Default Re: ImageClip looks faded on tshirt

Here are some pics.....obviously, I forgot to do the whole mirror image thing! I know...hilarious, but I'm sure that is just the first of many knowing me!
OK, give me your best advice.....
IMG_5689.JPG

IMG_5691.JPG

IMG_5692.JPG

IMG_5694.JPG

IMG_5696.JPG
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old May 28th, 2008 May 28, 2008 3:00:39 PM -   #5 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Master

dodank's Avatar
 
You can call me: dodank
Member Since: May 2007
Location: memphis, tennessee
Posts: 471
Thanks: 38
Thanked 49 Times in 38 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)


Default Re: ImageClip looks faded on tshirt

Quote:
Originally Posted by VPZ
Here are some pics.....obviously, I forgot to do the whole mirror image thing! I know...hilarious, but I'm sure that is just the first of many knowing me!
OK, give me your best advice.....
Attachment 4538

Attachment 4539

Attachment 4540

Attachment 4541

Attachment 4542
first of all what color is that shirt. secondly it look like they're ok if that shirt is grey but if not. just tweak ur colors meaning use more saturation and a little brightness in ur printer settings.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old May 28th, 2008 May 28, 2008 3:01:12 PM -   #6 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Master

dodank's Avatar
 
You can call me: dodank
Member Since: May 2007
Location: memphis, tennessee
Posts: 471
Thanks: 38
Thanked 49 Times in 38 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)


Default Re: ImageClip looks faded on tshirt

Quote:
Originally Posted by dodank
first of all what color is that shirt. secondly it look like they're ok if that shirt is grey but if not. just tweak ur colors meaning use more saturation and a little brightness in ur printer settings.
and by the way that's a cute image.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old May 28th, 2008 May 28, 2008 4:51:32 PM -   #7 (permalink)
VPZ
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Fan
Thread Starter

VPZ's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2007
Posts: 35
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)


Default Re: ImageClip looks faded on tshirt

thank you for the quick reply and the compliment...the shirt is white!
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old May 28th, 2008 May 28, 2008 6:36:26 PM -   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
Certified T-Shirt Junkie


Lnfortun's Avatar
 
You can call me: Luis
Member Since: Feb 2006
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 2,678
Thanks: 182
Thanked 745 Times in 506 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)


Default Re: ImageClip looks faded on tshirt

I am guessing. It looks like there is not enough polymer on the toner or the transfer paper was not peeled hot immediately. I would guess that most of the toner stayed with the transfer paper.

Bumping up the saturation may do the job but make sure there is good polymer coat on the toner.
__________________
Luis CorelDRAW macro author
Macro Website
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old May 28th, 2008 May 28, 2008 6:41:54 PM -   #9 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Master

dodank's Avatar
 
You can call me: dodank
Member Since: May 2007
Location: memphis, tennessee
Posts: 471
Thanks: 38
Thanked 49 Times in 38 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)


Default Re: ImageClip looks faded on tshirt

Quote:
Originally Posted by lnfortun
I am guessing. It looks like there is not enough polymer on the toner or the transfer paper was not peeled hot immediately. I would guess that most of the toner stayed with the transfer paper.

Bumping up the saturation may do the job but make sure there is good polymer coat on the toner.
i saw that too, but sometimes even peeling hot u can have that issue. that's why i suggested the printer setting tweaking, i have had to do it sometimes my self.
thanks infortun
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old May 28th, 2008 May 28, 2008 7:11:29 PM -   #10 (permalink)
VPZ
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Fan
Thread Starter

VPZ's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2007
Posts: 35
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)


Default Re: ImageClip looks faded on tshirt

Now, this is really going to sound stupid, but how do I add more saturation to black? I created this graphic in CorelDraw X3 and the black is C100M100Y100K100. I set my HP 3600 laser printer to print on cardstock which seems to be the heaviest paper option to choose from.
I realize the pictures I attached aren't very good to give you a better idea of what I'm talking about.
Any help is always appreciated!
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old May 28th, 2008 May 28, 2008 7:20:16 PM -   #11 (permalink)
Senior Member
Certified T-Shirt Junkie


Lnfortun's Avatar
 
You can call me: Luis
Member Since: Feb 2006
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 2,678
Thanks: 182
Thanked 745 Times in 506 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)


Default Re: ImageClip looks faded on tshirt

Quote:
Originally Posted by VPZ
Now, this is really going to sound stupid, but how do I add more saturation to black? I created this graphic in
CorelDraw
X3 and the black is C100M100Y100K100. I set my HP 3600 laser printer to print on
cardstock
which seems to be the heaviest paper option to choose from.
I realize the pictures I attached aren't very good to give you a better idea of what I'm talking about.
Any help is always appreciated!
Look into the printer driver for changing the saturation. With OKI printer the saturation can be changed as a whole not individual color.

Dodank can answer most of that for you.
__________________
Luis CorelDRAW macro author
Macro Website
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old May 28th, 2008 May 28, 2008 7:25:18 PM -   #12 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Master

dodank's Avatar
 
You can call me: dodank
Member Since: May 2007
Location: memphis, tennessee
Posts: 471
Thanks: 38
Thanked 49 Times in 38 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)


Default Re: ImageClip looks faded on tshirt

Quote:
Originally Posted by VPZ
Now, this is really going to sound stupid, but how do I add more saturation to black? I created this graphic in CorelDraw X3 and the black is C100M100Y100K100. I set my HP 3600 laser printer to print on cardstock which seems to be the heaviest paper option to choose from.
I realize the pictures I attached aren't very good to give you a better idea of what I'm talking about.
Any help is always appreciated!
ur black is okay,is that ur issue. make sure ur cmyk in ur design, i printed some black the other day an it too didn't look black black so i changed the settings to cmyk. what tray r u printing from the manual tray the one that folds out on front or the drawer tray; there is also a extra heavy paper setting but u really don't to use it. i will check mine tomorrow to see what i have it set on. there r no sat settings with the hp 3600 that i know of so for my colors if i choose red i just choose a deeper red. hope this helps
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old May 28th, 2008 May 28, 2008 7:27:59 PM -   #13 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Master

dodank's Avatar
 
You can call me: dodank
Member Since: May 2007
Location: memphis, tennessee
Posts: 471
Thanks: 38
Thanked 49 Times in 38 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)


Default Re: ImageClip looks faded on tshirt

Quote:
Originally Posted by VPZ
Now, this is really going to sound stupid, but how do I add more saturation to black? I created this graphic in CorelDraw X3 and the black is C100M100Y100K100. I set my HP 3600 laser printer to print on cardstock which seems to be the heaviest paper option to choose from.
I realize the pictures I attached aren't very good to give you a better idea of what I'm talking about.
Any help is always appreciated!
ur questions r not dumb, the ones u don't ask is. so ask away sweetie.
u can pm me ur phone no. or i can call u if that will help u quicker, i have free longdistance.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old May 28th, 2008 May 28, 2008 7:32:17 PM -   #14 (permalink)
Senior Member
Certified T-Shirt Junkie


Lnfortun's Avatar
 
You can call me: Luis
Member Since: Feb 2006
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 2,678
Thanks: 182
Thanked 745 Times in 506 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)


Default Re: ImageClip looks faded on tshirt

BTW with the Oki printer the driver can be set so that the printer will print pure black toner for black colors and not use any color combination to produce black color.

I just looked into X3 value for black. It should be C0 M0 Y0 K100. That is why your black do not look true black because you are mixing CMY values with the K parameter which is the acronym for black.
__________________
Luis CorelDRAW macro author
Macro Website

Last edited by Lnfortun; May 28th, 2008 at 07:39 PM.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old May 28th, 2008 May 28, 2008 7:36:05 PM -   #15 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Master

dodank's Avatar
 
You can call me: dodank
Member Since: May 2007
Location: memphis, tennessee
Posts: 471
Thanks: 38
Thanked 49 Times in 38 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)


Default Re: ImageClip looks faded on tshirt

Quote:
Originally Posted by lnfortun
BTW with the Oki printer the driver can be set so that the printer will print pure black toner for black colors and not use any color combination to produce black color.
yeah, u can do that with the hp but i forgot what i did to correct it; also make sure u prepress to remove moisture for garment. if i wasn't dressed for bed i would go out there tonight to check.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!






This is a discussion about ImageClip looks faded on tshirt that was posted in the Heat Press and Heat Transfers section of the forums.

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Worn, torn and faded look T's bobmward Find Wholesale Blank T-Shirts and Other Imprintable Products 6 September 10th, 2008 03:14 PM
Paint Shop Pro help with faded colors bonedaddy68 Graphics and Design Help 1 September 21st, 2007 04:58 PM
Faded look on T-shirts tsprinter Screen Printing 4 January 26th, 2007 11:39 AM
producing the faded look wellen_dowd Screen Printing 8 December 12th, 2006 10:25 AM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:27 PM.


Copyright 2004-2012 T-ShirtForums.com. All rights reserved.