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Old May 23rd, 2008 May 23, 2008 5:31:36 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default How to get around the polymer window.

I have searched the forum for days now looking for a good way to get around the polymer window. Plastisol does'nt work for me because I want to do my shirts all in house. I have read that sublimation will not work for darks. Has anyone had any luck using sublimation for darks. By the way what is meant by "darks". How bad would a sublimation look on say a standard red shirt, is this considered dark. If sublimation will work what special equipment do I need. Can I put sublimation ink in my C120 and print on sublimation paper.

I have also heard alot about the new self cutting transfer paper. I can't find a good place to buy it, the Imex USA website that I see people talking about is down. And I don't really trust giving my credit card # to a chinese website.

Also, I have yet to transfer to a dark shirt but if you trim close to the outside how bad will the inside look. Like if I had some large text would it look bad between the letters.

Any other ideas to get rid of polymer window for darker clothing please advise.

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You can order plastisol transfers from Ace Transfer Company, Inc. and then press them as you need them. You can't sublimate on darks or anything other than polyester. You can trim around your transfer with scissors,exacto knife and a vinyl cutter with contour cutting option to get rid of the window look. ..... JB
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I have searched the forum for days now looking for a good way to get around the polymer window. Plastisol does'nt work for me because I want to do my shirts all in house. I have read that sublimation will not work for darks. Has anyone had any luck using sublimation for darks. By the way what is meant by "darks". How bad would a sublimation look on say a standard red shirt, is this considered dark. If sublimation will work what special equipment do I need. Can I put sublimation ink in my C120 and print on sublimation paper.

I have also heard alot about the new self cutting transfer paper. I can't find a good place to buy it, the Imex USA website that I see people talking about is down. And I don't really trust giving my credit card # to a chinese website.

Also, I have yet to transfer to a dark shirt but if you trim close to the outside how bad will the inside look. Like if I had some large text would it look bad between the letters.

Any other ideas to get rid of polymer window for darker clothing please advise.

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Of course you can use plastisol. You have them made and then press yourself.. in house like a lot of us. If you want a commercial product you should think about this. Ink Jet transfers are great but not like screen printed plastsol transfers.
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I agree that using plastisol is your best option ... not to mention that if you use an opaque transfer for darks you have to completely trim it out or there will be white.
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If sublimation will work what special equipment do I need. Can I put sublimation ink in my C120 and print on sublimation paper.
Why don't you think of plastisol as "doing them in-house yourself"? Is it because someone else makes the transfers for you?

If you find a great supplier (and there are great suppliers out there) you will be doing the rest in house. With no window, no extra equipment, no extra expense on ink, no extra supplies, no time needed to produce them yourself, use any color shirt you need, easy to press. Just your press, your plastisols and your shirts.

If plastisols just aren't your thing, yes, you can buy dye sub for your c120, and the dye sub papers. But again, limited to polyester, and shirt shirt must be lighter than the inks.

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Like Rhonda said.

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Any other ideas to get rid of polymer window for darker clothing please advise.
Plastisols or vinyl, and with the vinyl you need a cutter, or someone to sell you your designs pre-cut for you.

Heres a thread on different print methods:
What is the Quality of Different T-Shirt Printing Methods? A list in general order.

Good luck, Dwilley. Seems like we're all looking for the same thing: an inkjet transfer paper that uses pigment and works on cotton - without transferring a window. Best regards, Kelly
 
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