Discuss the various aspects of heat press technology. Transfer paper, inks, plastisol transfers, vinyl cutters, printers, commercial usage, durability, suppliers, etc.
Hi will I was asked to wash some shirts that where done with Airwaves fabric opaque by Luis Fortun MAD Scientist JR. AKA MS2 Will I said yes to that going to take them to the Laundry mat then he asked if I would use sublimation ink on one and I said yes he sent two of them will first one I killed LOL second one worked I feel if this can pass my washing test at the laundry mat then this is the way I am going for dark shirts it may cost little more but the feel and look is so much better then any other transfers that I have seen ok here is the list of shirts
1.Lazer Toner and Contour Trimmed cottontrans
2.sublimation ink with cottontrans and Airwaves Fabric Opaque
3Inkjet Ink with cottontrans and airwave Opaque
4.Laser Toner, Cottontrans and Airwave Opaque
washing will be done sunday and will take new pics and see how they hold up now I think that Luis has all ready washed his some
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O ya please note there for testing you will see yellow box on the one I did becouse I did not trim the cotton trans so I wented to see what will happin to it after washing and I did fast hand cut
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2.sublimation ink with cottontrans and Airwaves Fabric Opaque
Hi David,
Thank you for doing the testing. The order of the thumbnail does not match with the list. Number 1 should have been number 2 and vice versa.
BTW you did not need the cottontrans for sublimation. I was hoping you were going to try the freezer paper instead. That way the image will not have polymer over it. Which will yield a very soft hand.
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had to do it this way had to put polymer over it sub will not stick if you have just fabric and this is who I had to do it
1. print sub an paper
2. heat press up and press 400 - 40 sec.
3.then paper over fabric opaque and press
4. then let cool and peel the paper
5.then put freezer paper over and press 3 sec.
6. trim
7.then peel the back off and put on shirt press 5 sec
8. peel off hot the freezer paper
9 then cotton trans and press for 30 sec.
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had to do it this way had to put polymer over it sub will not stick if you have just fabric and this is who I had to do it
1. print sub an paper
2. heat press up and press 400 - 40 sec.
3.then paper over fabric opaque and press
4. then let cool and peel the paper
5.then put freezer paper over and press 3 sec.
6. trim
7.then peel the back off and put on shirt press 5 sec
8. peel off hot the freezer paper
9 then cotton trans and press for 30 sec.
The fabric can be printed with inkjet ink. That is how I did with the inkjet version. I printed the image directrly on the opaque material. You do not have to print it on paper first then sublimate. Unless like you said the ink will not stick on the opaque. The opaque is made of 100% polyester so you can sublimate it without printing the image on the paper first if it can be rpinted directly with dye sub ink. In dye sub case after printing the image on the opaque you have to sublimate the ink by covering the fabric opaque with teflon sheet press it with pressing temp and dwell time you use for sublimation in this case 400F for 40 seconds. Then use the freezer paper as described in the instruction for sublimation that I gave you.
Sorry about the confusion. There is no mention of cottontrans in that instruction instead freezer paper was mentioned. The freezer paper was suppose to stablize the opaque when the backing is being removed so that it will not be limp or stretch which also has a tendency to stick to itself. Applying cottontrans with dye sub is not necessary because the ink is already bonded with opaque. It the defeats the puprose of having soft fabric hand when using dye sub.
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Sorry I went back and reread the steps you described is good up to the point where the cottontrans was pressed. You could have skipped that and the ink would be fine since you already sublimated it. You would have the yellow background had you not pressed cottontrans.
My instruction was to print directly on the opaque to save some steps. What you did was OK too. Maybe next time you try dye sub do not use cottontrans or any laser transfer paper to seal the ink.
I only used cottontans on the inkjet version because the ink needs to be sealed.
Sorry.
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OK sorry for taking so long I had to get some jobs out will here go washing this at laundry mat with high heat and yes I do know that not every one will put there shirts with this type of test first shirt is the white shirt and I love how this turned out it is just as good as JPSS yes I said it there if I was to use Laser toner I would do this it is Cottontrans with Laser toner here is the pic after wash.
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next is the Inkjet ink and cottontrans with Air wave Opaque this is sweet I would us this and sell it to I like the feel it is better then the ironall dark and it is little thick but it dois not feel like rain coat LOL did pass the wash test with mehere is pic .
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next was the Laser toner and cottontrans will this is died it did not pass the wash test and yes I have pics you can see I think.
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please note that all of this was contour trimmed with vinyl cutter and I would use this and even sell I like it lot better then ironall dark it will out last it printer and do transfer on it and it will hold up I would pick patch on my shirt then rain coat that is my two cents
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Luis
let me know if you want me to ship them back thanks for letting me do the wash test and I am getting some so I can use sub on them and will post new infore when I get that
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Luis
let me know if you want me to ship them back thanks for letting me do the wash test and I am getting some so I can use sub on them and will post new infore when I get that
Thanks again for doing the test. Good to here a second opinion. You can keep the shirts. Maybe give them some more beating .
I would love for you to try dye sub again without the cottontrans or any type of laser or inkjet transfer over the opaque. That way we will know how dye sub by itself will hold up on the opaque. Use the freezer paper to keep the opaque stable when you peel the backing so that it will not stretch or curl back and stick to itself. You will be surprised how much softer the opaque is and no yellowish window to boot.
Not sure what you meant by pen circled area on the 4th picture.
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I really appreciate your efforts in experimenting and reporting the results.
However I'm confused about whether I can use these recent results for my heat transfers. Please answer these two questions.
1. What "inkjet ink" did you use on one of the dark shirts? Was it pigment ink? (like Epson's Durabrite).
2. Is Airwaves Fabric Opaque an alternative transfer paper for IronAll-Darks for printing onto dark shirts?
2. Is Airwaves Fabric Opaque an alternative transfer paper for IronAll-Darks for printing onto dark shirts?
yes I would say that ironall is nice to give away but I would not sell. (but that is me)
Airwaves fabric opaque I would sell it looks better holds up better and will last as long as the shirts and you can put JPSS on this so you know it will last cost would be at $2.00 plus shirt and time.
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