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Old March 24th, 2008 Mar 24, 2008 12:09:24 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Question Ink for Epson?

Ok... I know that there are a lot of questions and answers about what is the best ink to use with Epson for tshirts. But they are long and spread out, and after so many pages I tend to get a little confused. So please bare with me.

Ok, I am running 2 printers, a C88 - which I am using for my sublimation inks, and a C84 (I know it's really old, but I got 2 of them for just $10... can't beat that with a stick) - which I am wanting to set up to do tshirt transfers. I bought Durabright for this... unfortunately, I accidentally bought the wrong cartridge so I have to go back and exchange it. I have read that the durabright inks are the best and I have read that they are not. What is today's feelings about what ink to use for printing my tshirts. Should I go ahead and stay with the durabright inks or go with something else?
I have hear that the blacks are dull, can you combine inks in the printer??? like using CMY in one brand... like durabright, and using a different brand for black? Would this solve any problems? Or is this just crazy thinking?
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Old March 24th, 2008 Mar 24, 2008 1:40:26 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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and a C84 (I know it's really old, but I got 2 of them for just $10... can't beat that with a stick) - which I am wanting to set up to do tshirt transfers.
You'll have to forgive me because I wrote a SUPER LONG post, and I got "Page Cannot be Displayed" when I tried to post it. Now, for the sake of my own sanity, I'll be brief.

There is a lot of information on the Forum about what ink members are using, as opposed to Durabrite. I think I was one of the first to experience color shifting with Durabrite (i.e. transfer with gray elements printed gray, but turned GREEN after pressing). I was also very frustrated with the pervasive yellow, which made extremely fair skinned Irish people, look Asian in my transfers. I couldn't understand why I was paying BIG BUCKS for the Durabrite, and had to make color adjustments all the time (-20 yellow, +5 cyan, +5 magenta). Then I really got mad when working with a composite color like gray, which couldn't be color adjusted (then it printed purple), and turned GREEN when pressed. What was I to tell customers, "I know it LOOKS green now, but after washing it, it will turn BACK to gray?!?" No way.

My solution was to buy refillable carts and heat transfer ink. I can't tell you HOW HAPPY I AM THAT I MADE THE SWITCH! I don't have to make ANY color adjustments to turn the yellow down, and I haven't had ANY COLOR SHIFTING WHATSOEVER! In addition, the black is a deep, rich black.

When I came up with the idea, I had just bought a set of CMYK Durabrite cartridges for $66. With that money, I spent $16 on the refillable carts, and $80 for 4 four-ounce bottles of ink! The refillable carts were purchased from inkjetcarts.us and the heat transfer ink was purchased from inksupply.com.

Recently inkjetcarts.us started selling what they say is THE SAME EXACT INK AS INKSUPPLY.COM, PURCHASED FROM THE SAME MANUFACTURER. Their price is only $46. So, if I had purchased my ink and carts from them, the total would've only been $62! Still less than the price for ONE SET OF EPSON CARTS! Also, I believe there is only approx. 5 ml of ink in each Epson cart (that's right -- ONLY ONE TEASPOON IN THE WHOLE CART!) -- you'd be getting 4 ounces of that color with the heat transfer ink! Imagine all the refills you'd essentially be getting for free in comparison to the Epson! I know I'll be saving over $400 compared to the Durabrite! That's HUGE.

I know that since I've posted my results in both the Testing New Transfer Paper thread (shows pics) and my thread called "Durabrite vs. Inksupply.com Heat Transfer Ink -- Durabrite You're FIRED!!", quite a few members have made the switch to the heat transfer ink, and no one has contacted me with any complaints. Oh yeah, I think I posted pics of the color shifting gray under a thread called something like, "Black turns green!"

I don't know, however, if the heat transfer ink for the C88+ is also usable in the C84. You'll have to contact Ross at Inkjetcarts.us and ask him. He's very nice and oh so helpful, and I'm sure he'll be happy to help.

Another alternative for you may be to purchase a CIS system. I just didn't go this route because you need to print everyday, or you'll get head-clogging, and I don't. Sometimes I don't print for a few weeks...

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I bought Durabright for this... unfortunately, I accidentally bought the wrong cartridge so I have to go back and exchange it.
Call Ross at inkjetcarts.us first. If he has a heat transfer ink that will work in your printer, don't exchange that cartridge -- return it!

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I have read that the durabright inks are the best and I have read that they are not.
Durabrite used to be considered "the best" because they are a pigmented ink which is more water resistant than dye ink. Members are now starting to experience color shifting with it, so maybe they've changed the formulation or something.

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Should I go ahead and stay with the durabright inks or go with something else?
From my experience, you should RUN AWAY from Durabrite, and go with a heat transfer ink. In addition to inksupply.com and inkjetcarts.us, Coastal Business and Magic Mix also sell heat transfer ink -- although they are much pricier...

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I have hear that the blacks are dull, can you combine inks in the printer??? like using CMY in one brand... like durabright, and using a different brand for black? Would this solve any problems? Or is this just crazy thinking?
Yes, the Durabrite black is what I call a "faux black", because it is not a dense, deep, rich black. No, you cannot use different inks. Why would you want to, when you will get all could want and more in a heat transfer ink? There IS NO draw-back to it.

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Thanks for taking the time... hope everyone had a good Easter.
Thanks, you too! As far as helping, I hope I have. You can thank me by doing the same some day when someone else has a question...

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