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Atari · July 2nd, 2006

After reading and lurking a bit on the forum...

We're going to have some custom plastisol transfers made.

Our design has a lot of white in it and will be on a BLACK shirt.

So I have some questions for any of you nice enough to share some wisdom....

1. I know the companies out there, but where would YOU get these transfers made?

2. Will this method have a "hand" or feel that is pretty close to screen printing?

3. Will this method have a washability / durability that is as good as screen printing?

4. Should I be getting cold peel or hot peel custom transfers for this job?

5. As far as using a heat press goes... this is the best and most ideal method for printing with white art onto a black garment, right?

Thanks in advance for your answers

The design isn't that big & we can actually have it ganged to probably 3 or 4 designs per sheet. If the plastisol transfers look, feel, & hold up nice... this will be PERFECT for us. I love the idea of getting deeply discounted transfers by buying a ton of them, but not having to stock all the shirts

jdr8271 · July 2nd, 2006

I would get the made by first-edition.com

plasticol transfers look like screen printing. THey feel kind of rubbery.

The washability..they will last longer than the shirt, if applied proberly.

I use cold peel with adhesive crysals from first-edition, becuase they are easier to use, and the ink transfers more completely.

Plasticol is thebest quality that you can get out of your heat press. Nothing else is as good.

TeeShirtSamurai · July 2nd, 2006

I use plastisol transfers with my shirts and I'm doing exactly what you describe (white ink on black tee).

I use Dowling Graphics (dowlinggraphics.com) for my transfers. You can BARELY feel the transfer on the shirt -- amazing quality.

Atari · July 2nd, 2006

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Originally Posted by TeeShirtSamurai


	I use Dowling Graphics (dowlinggraphics.com) for my transfers. You can BARELY feel the transfer on the shirt -- amazing quality.

"up to 28x36 with up to 8 cuts at no charge"

We have some samples coming from first-editition and plan to do the minimum sample order for our project to test... but I think we'll definitely give Dowling Graphics a hard look as well.

chris24net · July 3rd, 2006

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Originally Posted by Atari


	"up to 28x36 with up to 8 cuts at no charge"

And I can't remember who said it in a post, probably T-Shirt Samarai, but they also allow you to gang different images. BTW the sheet size is 25x38 with a 23.5x36 printable area. At least according to the info Gwen at Dowling sent me.

TeeShirtSamurai · July 3rd, 2006

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Originally Posted by chris24net


	And I can't remember who said it in a post, probably T-Shirt Samarai, but they also allow you to gang different images. BTW the sheet size is 25x38 with a 23.5x36 printable area. At least according to the info Gwen at Dowling sent me.

Yeh, when I sent my order in I had one sheet with 3 designs and another sheet with 11 designs ganged.

StitchShoppe · July 3rd, 2006

I've used duracut TM to do sample white-ink on black shirts. My customers never new the difference when I changed to plastisol transfers for the actual production run.

Atari · July 3rd, 2006

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Originally Posted by jdr8271


	I use cold peel with adhesive crysals from first-edition, becuase they are easier to use, and the ink transfers more completely.

What's with these adhesive crystals I keep hearing about?

If it is such a good thing, why is it that only one company is doing it?

Or are other companies adding these crystals by default without charging extra?

Scrap-Boy · July 3rd, 2006

... adhesive is common, i think.
be sure that a special thick screen is used with the White and that the plastisol transfer can be used/apply with Heat Press or Home Iron, you may decide you want to sell the iron-on's alone directly to DIY consumers also

...$$$$.

I know of a place that is great but they are booked until the middle of aug/06 .

Try Wildside or Airwaves (old roach co.), they are great too.

suzieh · July 3rd, 2006

Dowling Graphics lets you gang DIFFERENT images. I'm a happy customer

I have some images that are about 1/8th a part and DID NOT HAVE THEM CUT so I could squeeze in lots of stuff

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They were the only company to let me do DIFFERENT images and offer
oversized sheets...so I really had no choice. BUT am really glad we gave
Dowling a try. They are very kind to newbies

You might want to read up on custom/plastisol at unionink.com (click on articles). For black and white "color" the ink is typically Opaque for a dark shirt so the shirt color does not show (i.e. black is black versus grayish).

The hand on my Dowling Graphics "white" plastisol is not rubbery. If you press longer than 25 seconds or do a double pressing...you'll get a more faded white but is will be softer.

Plastisol transfers are screenprinted but ink is not cured completely. That happens when you heatpress your shirt. Quality is outstanding and durable.

Note...I am not a screenprinter nor have I been doing this for years.

Susan

jdr8271 · July 3rd, 2006

alot of companies use adhesive crystals. Some dont say it though. You should ask. Some companies have different options for ink as well.

With the adhesive crystals, there is no fussing, no bad peels, etc. It peels easy and transfers fully every time.

suzieh · July 3rd, 2006

That's the jumbo size. If you go with the one smaller (15 x 25 sheet/13 x 23 image area), the film/screen charges are less plus they have specials (just ask). Ask Diane at Dowling to email you their price list. I already brought to Dowling's attention that can't read their price list at website.
Susan

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Originally Posted by chris24net


	And I can't remember who said it in a post, probably T-Shirt Samarai, but they also allow you to gang different images. BTW the sheet size is 25x38 with a 23.5x36 printable area. At least according to the info Gwen at Dowling sent me.

Atari · July 3rd, 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris24net


	And I can't remember who said it in a post, probably T-Shirt Samarai, but they also allow you to gang different images. BTW the sheet size is 25x38 with a 23.5x36 printable area. At least according to the info Gwen at Dowling sent me.

Yeah that would definitely be cool if you had a bunch of 1 or 2 color designs.

identityburn · July 3rd, 2006

I'm not familiar with plastisol transfers and multi colored printing. Is it easy to have a multiple color design with them?

Atari · July 4th, 2006

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Originally Posted by suzieh


	Dowling Graphics lets you gang DIFFERENT images. I'm a happy customer I have some images that are about 1/8th a part and DID NOT HAVE THEM CUT so I could squeeze in lots of stuff .

Do you have a price sheet or price matrix from them? They don't have their prices online.

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