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Old January 26th, 2008 Jan 26, 2008 8:56:29 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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I purchased the C88+ refillable carts from InkJetCartsus.com, and I'm having a problem installing them in my printer. We filled them according to the instructions, first installing them in the printer to break the bottom seal, and them filling them with 13 ml (maybe a little less) of ink. We also put the syringe into the bottom port to allow any air bubbles to escape. We installed them in the C88+ printer, and then ran a 4 color purge file. It printed a red stripe (not magenta -- red), pink stripe, and yellow stripe, there was nothing where the black stripe should have printed. There were drips of black ink at the top of the paper, and then nothing else with the black. We took the black cart out, put the syringe in the springed bottom port to release possible air bubbles (which we did not see) and then put the carts back in. After that, the printer box on the computer screen kept saying there was a problem with the yellow cart (did the same thing -- took it out and put the needle in the bottom port to release possible air), and after that, did that to all of the carts. We tried shutting the printer down, and then restarting. It keeps saying that the carts need to be replaced, and won't let us run a nozzle check or a head cleaning.

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We just shut the printer down with the new carts installed, and unplugged the electrical cord. I've heard on the Forums that sometimes you need to leave the printer alone with the new carts installed overnight, and that corrects the problem. Do you agree? I'm SOOOOOO confused -- we have followed all of the instructions exactly... HELP!

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Old January 26th, 2008 Jan 26, 2008 9:00:39 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Hi Melissa I just did mine today I had to turn off my printer off 3 to4 times before it would let me print now it works great hope this helps
 
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Old January 26th, 2008 Jan 26, 2008 9:17:34 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Hi Melissa I just did mine today I had to turn off my printer off 3 to4 times before it would let me print now it works great hope this helps
Wow, David -- thanks for the hope! Did you also have the problem with the printing? It was weird -- printed a stripe of RED, magenta, yellow and that was it! No blue color or any black at all! Where the heck did the RED come from?!? After that, the printer wouldn't allow me to do anything else. We did try shutting it off a few times, which didn't help. I thought I had read somewhere about leaving it overnight (maybe it was for a CIS though, I'm not sure), so after an hour and a half of filling and problems, I thought it was a good solution! Better than throwing it out the window!
 
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no problems with printer after I got it to work
 
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Old January 27th, 2008 Jan 27, 2008 5:56:54 AM -   #5 (permalink)
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Melissa did you get it to work I am going to test it today on washing to see if it will hold up get to do 70 shirts and want to make share that it wont bleed
 
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Old January 27th, 2008 Jan 27, 2008 8:15:08 AM -   #6 (permalink)
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No, not yet. After all the problems last night, I decided shutting it off over night might be a good idea because 1-maybe the pressure in the carts will stabilize and 2- I was ready to throw it out the window! Will check it later this afternoon -- have to take daughter for Gifted & Talented testing (fun, fun fun!). Is your printer working today? Just wondering if it's going to be a hassle everytime I power it up, even after I get it working the first time...
 
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Old January 28th, 2008 Jan 28, 2008 5:33:48 AM -   #7 (permalink)
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hi angelic,
I bought a D88 - I think that's the UK version of the C88, ten months ago. when I first installed it I could not get it to work for days. I kept doing nozzle cleaning and tests and got broken lines on the tests, then only one colour printing, then every colour except red etc. So I left it for a few days and, low and behold, it worked! It has generally been fine since then, being used almost everyday. Occasionally it has a tantrum and the black prints out very faded. When that happens I turn it off, wait for a few hours and usually it is OK again. Tempramental for a machine, I suppose , but most of the time it works well. Hopefully leaving your for a day or so will do the trick.

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Hi Melissa will I thought that I got lucky but now they have to send new cartridge one of the ones I got pop out and wont go back in they know about this and never said any thing about it to me when I was talking to them and they told me to leave the printer on after you get it running I guess that we get what we pay for... LOL
 
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I think when I get tax return I am going to buy one like Lou has in his video I dont think he has any problems with his
 
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Old January 28th, 2008 Jan 28, 2008 5:57:16 AM -   #10 (permalink)
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I have two sets of carts from these folks, I have never had a problem once I purged the carts correctly. You need to fill the cart, open the valve at the port on the bottom, inject air through the air port(closest to the top fornt of the cart(which should have the plug removed permanently). Once you force a small amount of ink through the bottom port, you should be okay. If you would like clearer instructions, please PM me and I'll send you my phone # and walk you through the purge steps.
 
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I have two sets of carts from these folks, I have never had a problem once I purged the carts correctly. You need to fill the cart, open the valve at the port on the bottom, inject air through the air port(closest to the top fornt of the cart(which should have the plug removed permanently). Once you force a small amount of ink through the bottom port, you should be okay. If you would like clearer instructions, please PM me and I'll send you my phone # and walk you through the purge steps.
Wow, that makes sense. We had installed the cart to break the seal on the bottom port, and then were putting the needle in the BOTTOM valve, trying to let out the bubbles (if there were any). Didn't think of injecting air into the air port on the top of the cartridge to force the ink out the bottom. Hmmm.... will have hubby do that today, since I just got an order this morning for shirts, and I haven't even tested the HT ink I got from inksupply.com. Not sure if I'm going to get plastisol transfers made or using JPSS.

I'm going to PM you, to get your telephone number just in case this does not work. All I can say is, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!

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Now that the seal over the bottom port was broken open, do we need to hold that valve open with the tip of the syringe WHILE injecting the air, or do we leave the bottom port alone, and simply inject the air, which may FORCE the ink out?

Just had that question...

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I'm using Owl Brand refillables from ebay and they instruct you to draw some ink out with the hypo from the outlet of the cartridge. This causes the ink to flow between the reservoirs internally. You might find this less of a mess than blowing air thru the cartridge. I have done a couple of IronAll light transfers using these cartridges with pigmented ink and the black is not holding even under light washing conditions. On light grey shirts it washes out to appear dark green. I'm interested to see if you have better results.
 
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I'm using Owl Brand refillables from ebay and they instruct you to draw some ink out with the hypo from the outlet of the cartridge.
So you draw the ink from the bottom out the bottom valve with the hypo? How does this draw the ink into the outlet?

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I have done a couple of IronAll light transfers using these cartridges with pigmented ink and the black is not holding even under light washing conditions. On light grey shirts it washes out to appear dark green. I'm interested to see if you have better results.
What brand ink are you using? I have had many instances where Epson ink turned green after pressing... In addition, IronAll is famous for fading.

I'm using inkjetcarts.us refillable cartridges, but the ink is heat transfer ink from inksupply.com.

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So you draw the ink from the bottom out the bottom valve with the hypo? How does this draw the ink into the outlet?
What brand ink are you using? I have had many instances where Epson ink turned green after pressing... In addition, IronAll is famous for fading.
I'm using inkjetcarts.us refillable cartridges, but the ink is heat transfer ink from inksupply.com.Melissa
Ink Owl supplied me with additional short dull needles that are used to push against the plunger while you withdraw ink out of the cartridge outlet.
My understanding is at least their cartridges contain several chambers and just because you fill the main chamber at the top does not necessarrily mean the ink flows all the way thru initially. They also recommend shaking them prior to install for this reason. I'm using their labeled ink that came with this package, which is made by who know? I'll have to have a look at Inksupply.com. Thanks
 
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