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Old January 3rd, 2008 Jan 3, 2008 8:57:54 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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did you guys see this?
YouTube - SELF CUTTING(WEEDING) TRANSFER PAPER
Heat Transfer paper, heat transfer paper,self cuting transfer,HEAT,PERSONALIZED - Other Items Buy and Sell Quezon City, Metro Manila, Philippines

it seems to me like he doesn't really knows what he's doing, after removing the paper he presses it again without teflon sheet or anything
but it looks kind of good


i also found this one:
Self Weeding (cutting) Transfer Paper IMEX-USA


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Old January 3rd, 2008 Jan 3, 2008 10:51:05 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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"what do you think?"

I think that it sounds too good to be true...
I am going to watch this though, but like the advice right above this guy's stuff on that forum, it says, "Click here to read about scams"...

I'm not saying this is a scam, 'cause I saw it, but waiting this out would be a smart thing I think.
If I am wrong, then we have something to get excited about, that would be THE THING, that is, if it looks good in real-life, and washability, etc.

Pretty danged interesting though, thanks for the post.

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Old January 3rd, 2008 Jan 3, 2008 11:58:16 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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Looks very interesting. Hopes this is good thing for the industry.
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Old January 3rd, 2008 Jan 3, 2008 12:06:18 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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I just finished reading the page and it says that it is only for "Sublimation type of ink."

I guess its out of the question for me.
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Old January 3rd, 2008 Jan 3, 2008 12:13:59 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah this would be great if it turns out. i would like to see a black shirt though! notice on the video how he decides not to show you the image on the back of the shirt!! Oh! maybe someone should e-mail him and tell him about the new invention of the teflon sheet.
 
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notice on the video how he decides not to show you the image on the back of the shirt!!

He does show the front though, and it has white in it, that is what sets it apart from all else.
That still makes me feel as though something's up, I guess I am really skeptical nowadays. heheh

One thing, if this IS real, why would they be advertising small-time?
They could get rich in a day through the proper channels.

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yeah this is what makes me sceptical too, he doesn't have a website or anything, just a hotmail adress and telephone number
but on the other hand there it is, on the video, but it is possible that it's just a plastisol transfer (meaning that he's scamming people out of their money), then again who knows.
could you repress plastisol transfer like that?
 
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Old January 3rd, 2008 Jan 3, 2008 1:09:58 PM -   #8 (permalink)
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wow. I don't do inkjet, only laser transfers, so I can't test it out myself.

However...the old saying "if it SOUNDS too good to be true, it probably is" keeps coming to mind. Did you check out his "page" http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/vi...Transfer+paper

He won't divulge costs on the blog portion, will only deal with you one on one via email. Makes me curious.

If anyone tries it out though, please report back. I could get an inkjet setup if this works as advertised. Would save me a ton on outsourcing certain projects.
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If he says to use sublimation ink, then that would mean he actually doing sublimation, and not regular inkjet transfers, no? Maybe that's why he can repress the image with no teflon paper. If you noticed, though, he did have teflon paper on the bottom platen of his press (probably b/c the other side of the shirt had been already pressed -- you know the side he doesn't actually show).

Got to be honest here. I think this all looks a bit too shady to my tastes! The way the paper peeled, the "transfer" looked a bit rubbery or inky, like maybe he was actually using plastisol, although I've heard other say to repress plastisol with teflon sheet...

Think I'll skip it, and let some other sucker try it out...

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Self weeding paper?

You mean it will twist one up all by itself?

Wonder what Captain ZigZag thinks of that?
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Hey Guys,
I brought in 500 sheets of this from China along with Bulk ink systems for the new Epson C120 with Sublimation, Dye and Pigment ink. I figured I'd do some testing and figure out whats it's all about. I'm getting tired of turning away jobs for one offs when there's good money there for 5 minutes work.

The video you see there on YouTube is not a scam. It's a coated paper that reacts with the sublimation ink. You print your image (mirrored) and then press at about 180c for 10 seconds. There's no need for teflon sheets which is why the guy wasn't using one. It does work with dye and pigment ink as well. I haven't wash tested anything yet though.

You have to hot peel immediately as it is very heat sensitive. Wherever ink has been printed it transfers. Wherever it has not been printed it doesn't transfer the backing. It does leave embedded ink on the paper when peeling but doesn't affect image quality.

It leaves a soft feel and absolutely no polymer window.

I just started the testing today because of the holidays and have only run about 15 sheets so far. I'm documenting temperature settings and press time. The test images I'm using have fine detail and it has a bit of an issue picking up very light image colors. I've been trying with 1/2 point outlines and it is picking them up though, however a little touchy still.

Images with solid color are no problem at all and I would send them out the door. Fine detail graphics aren't there yet. I need some more test time.

I'll take some video and post it once I get it dialed in a little more.
The bulk ink systems are working perfect. What a money saver.
 
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Hey Guys,
I brought in 500 sheets of this from China along with Bulk ink systems for the new Epson C120 with Sublimation, Dye and Pigment ink. I figured I'd do some testing and figure out whats it's all about. I'm getting tired of turning away jobs for one offs when there's good money there for 5 minutes work.

The video you see there on YouTube is not a scam. It's a coated paper that reacts with the sublimation ink. You print your image (mirrored) and then press at about 180c for 10 seconds. There's no need for teflon sheets which is why the guy wasn't using one. It does work with dye and pigment ink as well. I haven't wash tested anything yet though.

You have to hot peel immediately as it is very heat sensitive. Wherever ink has been printed it transfers. Wherever it has not been printed it doesn't transfer the backing. It does leave embedded ink on the paper when peeling but doesn't affect image quality.

It leaves a soft feel and absolutely no polymer window.

I just started the testing today because of the holidays and have only run about 15 sheets so far. I'm documenting temperature settings and press time. The test images I'm using have fine detail and it has a bit of an issue picking up very light image colors. I've been trying with 1/2 point outlines and it is picking them up though, however a little touchy still.

Images with solid color are no problem at all and I would send them out the door. Fine detail graphics aren't there yet. I need some more test time.

I'll take some video and post it once I get it dialed in a little more.
The bulk ink systems are working perfect. What a money saver.

I'll be waiting on the wash test, that is a biggy if you say that the rest is pretty good.
I'm interested, as we all would be if it's fairly good stuff, and it definitely does have it's merits, well, from what you said and what we saw.

Thanks for posting your results!

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I'll defiantly post the results. It might take a bit of time as I'm in the middle of redoing our website. I'll do a detailed image and something more solid like a text logo or something to compare.

It defiantly has potential so we'll find out soon where it goes.
 
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Self weeding paper?

You mean it will twist one up all by itself?

Wonder what Captain ZigZag thinks of that?
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Hi alberta,
What website from china did you buy the self weeding paper?Please let us know.thanks
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