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Artsy_Marissa · January 8th, 2008

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Originally Posted by CuttingEdge


	One might argue that you had bad experience with their product and do not care to own one. As an owner of this same press that has given me satisfaction, would you still argue that mine too is junk?

yep.

One satisfied customer and many not satisfied ='s junk IMHO.

I believe it has been stated that there are far more unsatisfied with the Chinese presses than are satisfied.

I would rather call them junk and have someone not buy one than sing their accolades ( in the minority) and have someone get a bad one.

billm75 · January 8th, 2008

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Originally Posted by Artsy_Marissa


	yep. One satisfied customer and many not satisfied ='s junk IMHO. I believe it has been stated that there are far more unsatisfied with the Chinese presses than are satisfied. I would rather call them junk and have someone not buy one than sing their accolades ( in the minority) and have someone get a bad one.

Chinese presses in general, sure, there are plenty of folks dissatisfied with them. This one actually has a brand name attached to it, albeit, not a brand name like Hix, Stahls, etc. Seiki is the maker of this press, both Sunie.com and blankshirts.com carry them, support them and have stated in emails to me that the vast majority of the problems they've encountered were rectified almost immediately.

To say you'd rather call them junk than to sing their accolades because you've read enough about OTHER presses to bias your opinion, is to say back in the 70's and 80's, "I've heard enough bad about Toyota and Honda cars to not endorse them, I don't want to be the person to sing their accolades and have YOU get a bad one". I know plenty of people who swear by a brand and on that reccommendation, I've gotten the same brand only to have a terrible experience with it myself.

Why not simply say that YOU wouldn't suggest one because YOU wouldn't buy one. I've had good experiences with mine, another member here has had good experiences with his, that's 2 positives that I can give you for this sub $300 press.

If you're on a tight budget, need a good size press, this is a safe gamble. The company will ship you parts or a replacement if you happen to get a dud. Sunie.com actually tests each press before shipping it to try to ensure you won't experience a press that's DOA.

Artsy_Marissa · January 8th, 2008

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Originally Posted by billm75


	Chinese presses in general, sure, there are plenty of folks dissatisfied with them. This one actually has a brand name attached to it, albeit, not a brand name like Hix, Stahls, etc. Seiki is the maker of this press, both Sunie.com and blankshirts.com carry them, support them and have stated in emails to me that the vast majority of the problems they've encountered were rectified almost immediately. To say you'd rather call them junk than to sing their accolades because you've read enough about OTHER presses to bias your opinion, is to say back in the 70's and 80's, "I've heard enough bad about Toyota and Honda cars to not endorse them, I don't want to be the person to sing their accolades and have YOU get a bad one". I know plenty of people who swear by a brand and on that reccommendation, I've gotten the same brand only to have a terrible experience with it myself. Why not simply say that YOU wouldn't suggest one because YOU wouldn't buy one. I've had good experiences with mine, another member here has had good experiences with his, that's 2 positives that I can give you for this sub $300 press. If you're on a tight budget, need a good size press, this is a safe gamble. The company will ship you parts or a replacement if you happen to get a dud. Sunie.com actually tests each press before shipping it to try to ensure you won't experience a press that's DOA.

I am not referring to your press. That one is different from the one I called junk. I woudl assume the poster above has the the same press I had (the one that does not do plastisol, as said by the company, from transferssupplies or whatever) and was happy with it. After my experience and my $$ loss I will not say anything other than those are junk. I am not speaking about all chinese presses I am not that wordly

I am actually happy yours works for you! After being burnt its not a risk I am willing to take again. Wish I woudl of used that company and the cheap way was successful but it wasn't. My chinese press was Junk. Mine sold to me from Ebay, chinese, was junk. My opinion will never change

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	If you're on a tight budget, need a good size press, this is a safe gamble.

I could not disagree with this more. Easy for you to say when you got a good one. I got a bad one so I will never agree its a safe risk.

DigitalMayhem · January 8th, 2008

wow... LoL

scubadog · January 8th, 2008

I went in with about 11 other people on Signs 101 and bought a cheap import from a company called All American. It was a new design and they had just started importing them. They gave us a very good price, I think it was something like $230 + 40 shipping. Any way the press was very sturdy and I was very impressed at first. After using it a couple dozen times I noticed it was taking longer and longer to heat up. Finely there came a day when you could leave it turned on all day and it would not heat up. I threw it in the trash and bought a HIX HT-400D 15 × 15 for $800.00 at a show. I love it, it heats up at about 1 degree per second and I have never had a problem with it!! By the way All American no loger sell this press.

diane143 · January 8th, 2008

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Originally Posted by airraidapparel


	I had the same experience. The guy looked as if he just got back from delivering his soul to the devil (VIA second day air).

For 6 months in the summer our UPS deliveries were after 7pm. Really screws up your day when you have a PT job and hope to get stuff done on the day off. I miss my noon UPS deliveries.

majesticmind · January 8th, 2008

I liked our press so much I decided to start selling them myself. No complaints. No problems.

sodrisc · January 9th, 2008

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Originally Posted by billm75


	Chinese presses in general, sure, there are plenty of folks dissatisfied with them. This one actually has a brand name attached to it, albeit, not a brand name like Hix, Stahls, etc. Seiki is the maker of this press, both Sunie.com and blankshirts.com carry them, support them and have stated in emails to me that the vast majority of the problems they've encountered were rectified almost immediately. To say you'd rather call them junk than to sing their accolades because you've read enough about OTHER presses to bias your opinion, is to say back in the 70's and 80's, "I've heard enough bad about Toyota and Honda cars to not endorse them, I don't want to be the person to sing their accolades and have YOU get a bad one". I know plenty of people who swear by a brand and on that reccommendation, I've gotten the same brand only to have a terrible experience with it myself. Why not simply say that YOU wouldn't suggest one because YOU wouldn't buy one. I've had good experiences with mine, another member here has had good experiences with his, that's 2 positives that I can give you for this sub $300 press. If you're on a tight budget, need a good size press, this is a safe gamble. The company will ship you parts or a replacement if you happen to get a dud. Sunie.com actually tests each press before shipping it to try to ensure you won't experience a press that's DOA.

ahmen to that, im very happy with ours.

theflowerboxx · January 9th, 2008

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Originally Posted by Artsy_Marissa


	Oh my the one that does not do plastisol is the company I sent mine back too. That little tidbit of information was not there when I purchased. So I am wondering if i inspired it. That was my main complaint to him the platisol was not adhering. The ones from there are JUNK. That i can say with 100% certainty.

I have the exact same press you are referring to except last year's model and have had it for almost a year. I have did many plastisol transfers with that press and never had any problems with it. One job I did more then paid for the press so I can say with 100% certainty they are NOT all JUNK.

Mine heats up just fine and stays within 2 degrees celius throughout the whole day. I've probably did around a thousand shirts with this press and the only time I ever had any problems is when I use Imprintables JUNK Spectra Cut II.

freebird1963 · January 9th, 2008

I hate when people just ASSUME for some stupid reason or another instead of going directly to the source for the answer I emailed the person and asked why the ad said the press could not do plastisol transfers.
Heres the response sent back

Hi, Doing a successful transfer, you need temp/pressure/time. When the
stock transfer is printed with silk screen and plastisol, the range of
pressure needed varies. If the manufacture use too little transfer powder
when making the stock transfer or over cured it then it will be very hard
to release. The user will need a machine that can generate higher
pressure. Sometimes, when the stock transfer is made with plenty transfer
powder on the transfer sheet and cured it just right, then it is very easy
to release. It is very tricky. The stock transfer supposed to be cured
around 265 F. But if it is under cured, the sheet will stick together. If
it over cured, it won't transfer.

This machine could generate that much
pressure. But it is very difficult or almost impossible for a female
operator to snap it close at that pressure. For taller and stronger male,
then it would be less of a problem. (I successfully transfered plastisol on
this machine but my wife has never able to close the lid) I don't wish to
mislead any buyer saying that it can do it and yet the buyer has to jimmy
it to make it work. It is better to be honest up front. With inkjet
printed transfer sheet, the required transfer pressure is much less and the
sheet quality is more consistent.

Hope my answer make sense.

Tom

MotoskinGraphix · January 10th, 2008

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Originally Posted by freebird1963


	I hate when people just ASSUME for some stupid reason or another instead of going directly to the source for the answer I emailed the person and asked why the ad said the press could not do plastisol transfers. Heres the response sent back Hi, Doing a successful transfer, you need temp/pressure/time. When the stock transfer is printed with silk screen and plastisol, the range of pressure needed varies. If the manufacture use too little transfer powder when making the stock transfer or over cured it then it will be very hard to release. The user will need a machine that can generate higher pressure. Sometimes, when the stock transfer is made with plenty transfer powder on the transfer sheet and cured it just right, then it is very easy to release. It is very tricky. The stock transfer supposed to be cured around 265 F. But if it is under cured, the sheet will stick together. If it over cured, it won't transfer. This machine could generate that much pressure. But it is very difficult or almost impossible for a female operator to snap it close at that pressure. For taller and stronger male, then it would be less of a problem. (I successfully transfered plastisol on this machine but my wife has never able to close the lid) I don't wish to mislead any buyer saying that it can do it and yet the buyer has to jimmy it to make it work. It is better to be honest up front. With inkjet printed transfer sheet, the required transfer pressure is much less and the sheet quality is more consistent. Hope my answer make sense. Tom

Well he has his pressure somewhat confused concerning plastisol transfers. More a temp and dwell situation than a pressure issue.

DigitalMayhem · January 10th, 2008

So, tom is full of it?

billm75 · January 10th, 2008

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Originally Posted by DigitalMayhem


	So, tom is full of it?

I don't think it was implied that he is full of it. I believe it was pointed out that he may have the wrong idea about using plastisol transfers. Pressure seems to be the only issue he's dealt with, while overlooking the possibility of temp or dwell times.

MotoskinGraphix · January 10th, 2008

Basically if you shut the press with enough resistance to lock it down you have enough pressure to press plastisol transfers. The idea that you have to have mighty strength enough to close the press and most women cant...well thats just stupid. If you cant press plastisol you cant press anything...it takes the least amount of pressure.

plan b · January 10th, 2008

Well I think the stahls line is out sourced overseas, and it may just be in China, of course thats just what I heard through the grape vine, don't know for sure.
Have a good day all.

R.

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