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Old December 27th, 2007 Dec 27, 2007 12:50:40 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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made my 1st plastisol transfers this weekend. black and grey transfers came out great but it seems like the white cures very fast. i have a 8' workhorse dryer and i had the temp @ 220 and the speed all the way up but the white did not come out tacky. i used union maxopake and it seemed to cure to much. i applied it @ 375 for 15 sec @ med preasure. the prints wrinkled after the 1st wash and dry and i am not happy w the washability. i would love some experianced advice on this subject. i have a large little league job comming up and i need to resoulve this issue soon.
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What is the drawback to direct printing the shirts for the LL job?
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made my 1st plastisol transfers this weekend. black and grey transfers came out great but it seems like the white cures very fast. i have a 8' workhorse dryer and i had the temp @ 220 and the speed all the way up but the white did not come out tacky. i used union maxopake and it seemed to cure to much. i applied it @ 375 for 15 sec @ med preasure. the prints wrinkled after the 1st wash and dry and i am not happy w the washability. i would love some experianced advice on this subject. i have a large little league job comming up and i need to resoulve this issue soon.
We've been working with the white Union Maxopake, also, and had good results by curing it between 200-210 (used the heatpress!) for 18 seconds, and then applied it to a nylon mesh jersey @350 for 8 seconds. We did wash/dry our sample, and it appears to match the purchased transfer from Transfer Express. When we applied the Transfer Express numbers, their time was 6 seconds - it may be a timing issue, esp. when it comes to nylon. Good luck with the Little League job.
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, and it appears to match the purchased transfer from Transfer Express.
how about bleeding with the maxopake white? the uniforms i am going to be printing will be 50/50 and i am concerned about color bleed. also do the other maxopake colors (red, blue, gold) match up with transfer express numbers?
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What is the drawback to direct printing the shirts for the LL job?
i am going to try to get a head start on the job before i get the exact #s & sizes. also my wife can help if we use transfers. i'm also concerned with the fatigue of manual printing 500+ shirts all at once. if i can start making transfers now then i wont have to printthe whole job at once. this is my first little league job m not sure what the most efficient way to get the job done. i am still concidering manual printing the fronts. any advice is welcome. thanks justin
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how about bleeding with the maxopake white? the uniforms i am going to be printing will be 50/50 and i am concerned about color bleed. also do the other maxopake colors (red, blue, gold) match up with transfer express numbers?

We've only worked with the white, so I really can't answer about the other colors, unfortunately. As far as bleed, we were using 100% nylon mesh BB jerseys. My only suggestion is to do a number of tests on samples and see if there is a bleed problem. We're only doing 75 jerseys, and decided that this would be more efficient that manual pressing!!
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this is my first little league job m not sure what the most efficient way to get the job done. i am still concidering manual printing the fronts. any advice is welcome. thanks justin
Some things I have learned from doing LL through the years.

1. Seperate the teams by the color of ink they are to receive and work on one color at a time. You can save a lot of time not switching inks after every team.

2. If two or more teams get the same image, save those for last and clean 1 screen for ink color changes.

3. Use vinyl numbers/player names for the backs if it is possible. They are pretty inexpensive and a lot faster than screening transfers and then pressing them. By the time you calculate your time and expense to make transfers, vinyl is probably no more expensive. Check with Stahls or a local vinyl cutter.

4. Ask your wife to help if she can. I get my father to help me. He makes screens and folds finished shirts while I print. We can knock out 16 teams (avg. 15 shirts per team) per day moving at an average pace. We don't do the numbering though. The guy who sells the unis to the LL does his own names and numbers.

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i'm gona try again to make some white transfers this weekend. this time dropping my dryer temp to 200 then 175 if 200 is over curing. once i get the ink to gel and not cure i am going to experiment w/ time and temp on my heat press. union recomends 375 for 10-15 seconds but from what i am reading 240 for 8 seconds seems to work for people.
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Sorry.... i'm using union TRANSOPAKE. not maxopake....
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also my paper curls pretty bad. where can i get better paper.
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Default Re: making plastisol transfers, curing issues

We've been using Texitran 15x15 from Tubelite - it's been working great for our one color transfers.
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