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cutvinylimprint · December 18th, 2007

Mark,

I believe my paper says 375 degrees for 30 seconds.. What temp do you have your press at? And even though it may say 375 is it really 375? I have a handheld temp gun for mine and I had to raise mine a little about 5-7 deg. to get mine up to around 375.. I am also using heavy to holy crap is this thing going to close pressure. And I have not had one mess up yet!!!

just tryin' to help..

Scott.

markallan · December 18th, 2007

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Originally Posted by badalou


	Are you pre pressing the shirt. Also pre heat your lower pad before pressing. Are you applying an even pressure with your press? Lou

Thanks, Lou,

Hmmm... Yes I am pre-pressing the shirt, but two things you said made me curious. How do you "pre heat the lower pad"? It's rubber and the instructions say to never close the press on the bottom pad (DUH!). So what do you mean by this? Close it with a teflon sheet between?

Also, how would I know whether or not I'm applying "even pressure"? The "dollar bill test" on all sides? If the pressure were NOT even, how would I even fix that?

'Feeling like there are rays of hope...

Mark

Girlzndollz · December 18th, 2007

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Originally Posted by badalou


	wow mark, I feel bad. I followed the instruction and got a perfect prints. I have yet to have a problem with this paper. Are you pre pressing the shirt. Also pre heat your lower pad before pressing. Are you applying an even pressure with your press? I wish I could see what you are doing to help. Lou

Hey, maybe Mark could make a YouTube video for Lou - that's be a switch!

And seriously, if you could Mark, maybe Lou could help you better. If you are losing over 50% stock (ouch) it might be worth doing if you are capable of it.

I'm not, I'd need the YouTube for dummies book, but I did go through so much paper and ink when I got my coastal paper, I thought I would be out of ink by the time I got to make a shirt. Color setting are so different from ironall. With ironall, I have one setting for lights, one for dark.

With coastal, I ended up with different settings for different designs to get the tones correct.

Good luck everyone, happy holidays!

2STRONG · December 18th, 2007

i had my first experiance with the jetpro softatretch and am very happy with it i used as dirested 375 heat med to heavy pressure 30 sec press time here sre my results the first image is the printed transfer which i waited over night before i printed it. the second picture is right after i peeled the transfered off the final picture is 1 wash and 1 dry. i washed as anyone would was so i could see what would happen because you everyone will not follow washing instructions. washed on whites setting with detergent no bleach and dryed in dryer with some towles (did not want to wait till they were done

) i was suprised by the result the color held pretty good. no problem well maybe one i had a scratch on the bear face but that might have been from the towels because i did not see that when i pulled it out of the washer.

markallan · December 18th, 2007

I hate to place so much pressure on Lou, but maybe he could help me. I'm just trying to broadcast some of the issues I'm having with this new Sofstretch. Like I said, when it works, it's the best thing ever. And sometimes I practice on extra fabric and it works three times in a row, and then I go to make a shirt for a customer on a good t-shirt and it suddenly doesn't work.

This makes me think I need to be prepping the shirt differently, or that the thermo display on my press isn't working properly and not showing that it's overheating, or maybe I'm using too much pressure (is there such a thing?)... sigh. When I use grade 12 finite math to think of all the possible permutations of things that could be going wrong, it's a wonder anybody ever gets it RIGHT!

I'm gonna stick with Sofstretch because it's so much better ON the shirt than any other transfer paper I've seen. And it CAN'T be the paper's fault. I just wonder how close I'm gonna have to get to putting myself out of business before I get consistent results.

Mark

mrdavid · December 18th, 2007

I have done over 200 now and this is what I do
1.perheat the press for 20 min to 375
2.use med to heavy pressure
3.perpress the shirts for 5 sec
4.and press for 30 sec then I stretch it in all over
the press that I use is Geo Knight 9 x 12 Digital Swinger JetPress

mrdavid · December 18th, 2007

I all so use 100 percent cotton,50 percent hemp 50 cotton and Bamboo shirts and have had no problems yet knock on wood

badalou · December 18th, 2007

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Originally Posted by mrdavid


	I have done over 200 now and this is what I do 1.perheat the press for 20 min to 375 2.use med to heavy pressure 3.perpress the shirts for 5 sec 4.and press for 30 sec then I stretch it in all over the press that I use is Geo Knight 9 x 12 Digital Swinger JetPress

And that is what I do. There seems to be alot of issues with the paper. i am going to contact Kieth at coastal and see if he will put me in contact with neenah. he told me they wanted to interview me for something.. I think I made their sales go up.. But you know me.. If there are problems with different batches then we need to know.

badalou · December 19th, 2007

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Originally Posted by badalou


	And that is what I do. There seems to be a lot of issues with the paper. i am going to contact Kieth at coastal and see if he will put me in contact with neenah. he told me they wanted to interview me for something.. I think I made their sales go up.. But you know me.. If there are problems with different batches then we need to know.

I talked to Kieth this morning about issues with the paper. They have had some calls and the result of some of the problems is, from their prospective and the manufacture, is there is just not enough heat applied. Now we all know that each of us have a press and some are old, some are new and some are small and I never trusted my temp. on my old Geo Knight 9 x 12. If your getting great results as I am then leave it alone but if your not getting the paper to stick or it is sticking in some parts and not others then we think, Kieth and myself, that it is heat problem or a heat distribution problem. Here is a test. Make a test design. Cut into 9 pieces, like a tic tac toe board. Place a test shirt (Old) and make sure your press is at the highest heat noted on the instructions. Place each piece on the shirt 3 up across 3 middle across and 3 bottom across. Press and peel. See if each come off as it is supposed to. If not then you in fact may have a problem with one of the heat elements in your press. I am not saying this will solve your problem but it can help in determining if there is a problem. Lou

angelic_endeavor · December 19th, 2007

Was asked to do a sweatshirt for my brother-in-law. Since I decided to try out the new Jet Pro SofStretch, I printed it out first, then did 10 other shirts with stock transfers. Since I have not done a sweatshirt before, I decided to press the SofStretch transfer on a 100% Gildan 6/1 oz. t-shirt -- that way, if I had a problem, I knew the problem wasn't the substrate, and must be the transfer.

I pressed for approx. 30 seconds (had forgotten to adjust timer on press before closing the press, and was scrambling to do it while it was already pressing!) at 375 and firm pressure. IT CAME OUT GREAT!!

Even though I know it should be trimmed, I did not, just to see what it would come out like. Well, just like the IronAll, you can barely even see that there's anything on the shirt. With the design I had, it just would've taken a lot of time to trim the image out, and I didn't think a light white box around the design would really detract from it. With the IronAll, after washing many times, I have to really squint to see where the white box is, so don't know if it's really worth spending valuable sleeping time cutting them out! LOL...

Anyway, from the one shirt that I did, I think the new Jet Pro SofStretch is a keeper! Guess I'm lucky that I got a good batch, or that my Mighty Press is brand new... Will let you know what happens when I put it on a sweatshirt.

Melissa

angelic_endeavor · December 19th, 2007

Sorry -- the purpose of my telling you that I printed out the transfer, pressed 10 shirts, and then pressed the SofStretch transfer onto a shirt -- was that maybe your press needs to be good and hot before trying to press the shirt?

Also, my purpose was that I did not have to leave the shirt overnight to let the ink dry or anything like that. I even used text/photo ink settings in Epson Print options.

Melissa

mrdavid · December 19th, 2007

will my Geo Knight 9 x 12 is used and I have check the heat on it with heat gun and so I now what temp is that is why I dont think I have any problems with Jet Pro SofStretch I love this new paper and hope to keep useing it I have had very good luck with it and I dont trim as close as I did with other paper and some of the shirts that I have done have very good color to them some have stains on them now from work but I have washed now over 15 times was telling A friend About the washing and he said that He could not tell that they have been washed that many times and thought the pic was still very nice Now I am getting up to start my Business so hope that others can do this

badalou · December 20th, 2007

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Originally Posted by angelic_endeavor


	Sorry -- the purpose of my telling you that I printed out the transfer, pressed 10 shirts, and then pressed the SofStretch transfer onto a shirt -- was that maybe your press needs to be good and hot before trying to press the shirt? Also, my purpose was that I did not have to leave the shirt overnight to let the ink dry or anything like that. I even used text/photo ink settings in Epson Print options. Melissa

Folks please heed.. my new friend Melissa has a sleeping disorder and she can't seem to stop.. I think she needs to get some rest.. This is taking over here life.. Of course I am saying this at 1 am because I can't sleep thinking about the project I am working on.

badalou · December 20th, 2007

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Originally Posted by mrdavid


	will my Geo Knight 9 x 12 is used and I have check the heat on it with heat gun and so I now what temp is that is why I dont think I have any problems with Jet Pro SofStretch I love this new paper and hope to keep useing it I have had very good luck with it and I dont trim as close as I did with other paper and some of the shirts that I have done have very good color to them some have stains on them now from work but I have washed now over 15 times was telling A friend About the washing and he said that He could not tell that they have been washed that many times and thought the pic was still very nice Now I am getting up to start my Business so hope that others can do this

Nice going Can you show us some pictures of the shirt after the 15 washes?

mrdavid · December 20th, 2007

here is one of the pictures this was the frist pic I did Lou you seen this when I frist did it now I did not wash in cold only in hot and dry with heat and used Detergent with Bleach all for one stuff 15 washs and this is what it looks like now I will show the other one when I get it out today hope this will help and let people know that this is very good paper like I said on other posts in the form that I have done my home work and had spend lot of time and money on transfer paper and Tees-Shirts in the last 6 to 8 weeks and so I will stay with this Jet Pro SofStretch for now thanks to Lou who let me know about this paper from the very start

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