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Old December 3rd, 2007 Dec 3, 2007 12:04:54 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default 100% cotton or poly which fade less w/ pigment ink

Hi,

Using ironall, epson c88+, mighty press lite, which holds color better over time:

100% preshrunk cotton or 50/50 poly?

Thanks so much for your insight!
 
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Default Re: 100% cotton or poly which fade less w/ pigment ink

Your set up sounds the same as mine: C88+, IronAll (actually Everlast), durabrite inks, Mighty Press. I found the 50/50 shirts actually faded less, and held the color better than the 100% cotton. That's just my impression...
 
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Default Re: 100% cotton or poly which fade less w/ pigment ink

Oh, thank you. I really liked the way the 50/50 came out after pressing and wash tests (my second wash test was in warm water with med/high heat dryer for 25 mins) and the 50/50 looked awesome.

I'm really glad to hear your opinion because I wanted to 50/50, but I read somewhere people felt with less cotton it faded faster. Thanks a bunch, I feel alot better now!
 
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It's actually funny how my testing came about. I made one shirt for my daughter (Hanes Heavyweight 5.5 oz. 50/50), and she got it dirty before we even got a chance to wear it out to dinner. In addition, it got chilly, so I printed up another transfer and pressed it onto a Rabbit Skins long sleeve 100% cotton shirt, and after seeing how both of them washed, I was shocked to see how much better the 50/50 shirt looked!

I have been happy with the soft feel, no cracking and great stretchability of the IronAll, but not so happy with the fading and the lack of color vibrancy! I'm soooo excited to try the Jet Pro Softstretch paper -- I'd be soooo happy if I didn't have to apologize to friends when the designs custom made for them start to fade right away! Guess this is why I haven't officially started a "t-shirt biz" yet!

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Default Re: 100% cotton or poly which fade less w/ pigment ink

I'm waiting for my sofstretch, too! For all the same reasons. I'm selling ironall, but if anyone has a problem, I plan to replace their shirt FOC with sofstretch. So far, our 50/50's are looking good, but not all, some are holding better than others (brandwise) Jerzees HW seems to be winning for us, but I love the feel of Gildans.
 
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Default Re: 100% cotton or poly which fade less w/ pigment ink

Gildan gets alot of bad press around here, the only thing I really have against it is the thread quality is pretty poor, and Gildan is notorious for having tons of loose thread all over the place. We use alot of FOTL 50/50's in the store, but our market prefers lightweight shirts in light colors.

When I go highend, I will probably start stocking alot of Alternative and AA's.
 
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Default Re: 100% cotton or poly which fade less w/ pigment ink

I just got a box in today with Gildans sweatshirts, threads all over, you're right.

I loved the FOTL, but in my wash test, it faded more than the Jerzees. Here it's cold, so I didn't like the thinness of the Jerzees (location, location, location), it wasn't bad, just not as thick as the Gildans, but it passed the wash test and nasty warm water & med/high heat drryer for 25 minutes with flying colors (no pun intended!).

What paper do you use in the store with the FOTL?
 
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Default Re: 100% cotton or poly which fade less w/ pigment ink

Mostly plastisol, but I have experimented with ironall and a couple of it's "cousins" I am really anxious to try the SofStretch though, it sounds like the best thing going right now.
 
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Default Re: 100% cotton or poly which fade less w/ pigment ink

Me, too. Waiting, any day now.
 
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Let me know how it works out for ya.
 
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I will, I'll post it here.
 
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Default Re: 100% cotton or poly which fade less w/ pigment ink

Put my order in for the SoftStretch yesterday -- I can't wait! It would be great to make a photo design with vibrant colors, and not have to apologize ahead of time for the potential fading issue! I'm just hoping it's all that everyone says it is!!
 
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Mine's due to deliver tomorrow!!!!!!!! Anticipaaa-aa-tion is making me wait......
 
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LOL... bet it'll feel like a Christmas morning! The anticipation is killing me too! In fact, I asked Coastal last week to send me a sample, and since I still haven't received it, went ahead and ordered it in hope of just getting my hands on some quickly! (Not that I have a lot of time on my hands, especially with Christmas coming, but I'll MAKE time for the SoftStretch!!)
 
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Default Re: 100% cotton or poly which fade less w/ pigment ink

Wow, its seems like most of us have similiar set ups and similiar issues. I ordered the Everlast Ironall because thats what was recommended and I tested all colors on Haines Beefy Tee 100% cotton. FTL Loft Tees 100% cotton, Anvil Ladies Tees 100% cotton, Anvil Baby dolls. All faded after one wash, no cracking. I was really dissapointed with the black, it looks vintage after one wash. I am about to purchase Jet Pro Soft Stretch from Coastal. I wrote to Milford and told them that I was not impressed with Ironall and would no longer order from them. I doubt they will do anything for me but lesson learned.

I was also about to order Gildan, but I may not now that I hear this. i have never used 50/50, I may order some samples. Does anyone have any suggestions on the best shirt that feels soft after washing and holds the color.
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