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Old November 26th, 2007 Nov 26, 2007 10:52:33 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Question Ironall dark looks lumpy after dryer - help!

Hi everyone,

We printed with an Epson c88+, onto ironall dark, pressed for 16 secs with a Mighty Lite. Image looked good. Washed, looked good, put it in dryer, it came out looking like the top of a cake - Puffy and Creased (not cracked/no color loss).

The image area pulls the fabric around the image in toward the image, very weird. It looks terrible. I will iron it to see if it goes flat again, but is this normal? Is there something we can do different to have the image come out flat after the dryer? The instructions say no special laundering, but should it be hung dry?


Thank you so much. We're trying to deliver Holiday orders for little pink shirts and want to send the kids the best we can provide, which we know should be ironall dark, but they will be disappointed if after one wash their little shirts look like this. Any help/advice we are grateful for!!!!!

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Old November 26th, 2007 Nov 26, 2007 11:17:47 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Ironall dark looks lumpy after dryer - help!

sounds like you used a cotton shirt and maybe had dryer heat too high? but I am sure Badalou will chime in..
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Old November 26th, 2007 Nov 26, 2007 11:33:39 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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Thank you for writing, Charles. My husband did the wash test, so I am not sure on the specifics other than the heat setting was at medium high when I removed the shirt. The directions say no special laundering is needed, is that not really true than I guess?
 
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Default Re: Ironall dark looks lumpy after dryer - help!

The only reason I mentioned the heat aspect is that cotton shirts that are not preshrunk will often shrink in the dryer and when the shirt shrinks...and the transfer can't..then you will get the puckering effect..

A lot will depend on the type paper/printer/ink/material/press time/temp.. Maybe you will get a larger response if you provide that info
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Old November 26th, 2007 Nov 26, 2007 12:04:19 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: Ironall dark looks lumpy after dryer - help!

You're right, it is a 100% cotton shirt, and puckering is exactly what it looks like.

And I'll give the specifics, good idea:

Printed onto ironall dark, using an Epson C88+ with pigment ink, pressed it with the Mighty Lite at 350 degrees for 16 secs (I watch Lou's videos too!)

Is there anyway to avoid this with 100% cotton?
 
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Old November 26th, 2007 Nov 26, 2007 3:09:51 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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The dark transfer is a 375 - 30 sec. Don't wash the shirt after 48 hours of transfer.
 
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Default Re: Ironall dark looks lumpy after dryer - help!

I always use 50/50 blend with transfers to avoid the shrinking of cotton t's. Your transfer is what it is and can't/won't shrink with cotton. At least with what i've encountered.
 
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Thank you for writing, Charles. My husband did the wash test, so I am not sure on the specifics other than the heat setting was at medium high when I removed the shirt. The directions say no special laundering is needed, is that not really true than I guess?
chime , chime.. Ok I figured this out real fast.. It was your husbands fault.. No man should be doing the laundry.. we will screw it up everytime.
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Thank you for writing, Charles. My husband did the wash test, so I am not sure on the specifics other than the heat setting was at medium high when I removed the shirt. The directions say no special laundering is needed, is that not really true than I guess?
OK the real answer.. some of you guessed the answer. Iron all is vinyl and the shirt will shrink a bit and that will cause the problem you have experenced as vinyl does not shrink with the shirt.. but when you press the shirt then you should stretch it right after you press it. also press it after you wash it.The reason that you don't get the plumpy look with 50/50 is it does not shrink as much as cotton.. Send all checks to.. nope can't do that.. Oh, wash in cold water.. bet your husband used hot.. It causes it to shrink more..
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chime , chime.. Ok I figured this out real fast.. It was your husbands fault.. No man should be doing the laundry.. we will screw it up everytime.


HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA ! Better to be screwed up than not done at all!!

And you found me, Lou! I am redoing the shirt after your suggestions earlier, stretching and repressing, and YES, I did the wash test myself this time in cold water (he was busy washing dishes this time! ) and I'm too afraid to put this 100% cotton shirt in the dryer.

I'm searching the forum for a good supplier of youth shirts that are 50/50 to try to aliviate the puckering. After the wash, I did have to smooth the image down a bit, but it wasn't bad at all, not like the other one from the dryer.

I'm now thinking no on the Ironall for lights, go with the new paper from Coastal, and use ironall dark for 50/50 shirts. Does that sound about right to keep things moving along smoothly? Anyone?

Thank you all, you are a very nice bunch. I am learning by stumbling and appreciate the hand up.
 
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HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA ! Better to be screwed up than not done at all!!

And you found me, Lou! I am redoing the shirt after your suggestions earlier, stretching and repressing, and YES, I did the wash test myself this time in cold water (he was busy washing dishes this time! ) and I'm too afraid to put this 100% cotton shirt in the dryer.

I'm searching the forum for a good supplier of youth shirts that are 50/50 to try to aliviate the puckering. After the wash, I did have to smooth the image down a bit, but it wasn't bad at all, not like the other one from the dryer.

I'm now thinking no on the Ironall for lights, go with the new paper from Coastal, and use ironall dark for 50/50 shirts. Does that sound about right to keep things moving along smoothly? Anyone?

Thank you all, you are a very nice bunch. I am learning by stumbling and appreciate the hand up.
when we start out we all make mistakes. This where my knowledge comes from. I have made tons. My work here is to help you guys not make the same ones. But if you do then don't get upset.. you just learned something..
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