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Old October 19th, 2007 Oct 19, 2007 5:24:13 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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We just got our new 15x15 press and our first two prints only partially transferred to the shirt. I'm sure it's something simple like pressure...but I don't know yet.

The transfers are from ProWorld so I think they're fine, I set the temp to the recommended settings and preheated, then pressed with med pressure for the specified time set by ProWorld for the transfer...

I double checked everything and tried again...same thing.

I don't want to spend $1.50 + a shirt every time I try a new setting...Does anyone have any ideas or have you run into the same problem? VERY Open to suggestions!

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Default Re: Troubleshooting with a headache

It sounds like you need either more heat or more pressure, could be both. Sometimes all heat presses do not heat exactly the same or even a little more time. I would exeriment with a little more of each and use the same shirt so you dont waste more. hope this helps

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Old October 19th, 2007 Oct 19, 2007 5:48:14 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Troubleshooting with a headache

Is it possible to overheat a transfer so much that it sticks to the paper instead of the shirt? Or can I rule that one out?
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Old October 19th, 2007 Oct 19, 2007 10:05:32 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Troubleshooting with a headache

Hey...I've adjusted pressure, increased heat...even let it set for a little longer before raising the press. NOTHING is working, I cannot get these transfers from ProWorld to peel from the paper. I'm using 100% Cotton t's and the transfers start to peel from the paper but then a small piece will stick and then another and then it just escalates from there! WHAT IN THE WORLD AM I DOING WRONG HERE???
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Default Re: Troubleshooting with a headache

I believe so, but this usually happens when you mess up somewhere along the process, such as pulling the transfer, stopping, and starting again. But it could happen.
 
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Default Re: Troubleshooting with a headache

Did you try pre pressing for say like 10 seconds or so to make sure there is no moisture in the shirt? I donno if that would cause that to happen .. but worth a try
 
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Default Re: Troubleshooting with a headache

What type of transfers are they, are they for light or dark garments, are they regular tranfers or plasitol. Maybe if you give this info it will be easier to help. Also what temp and time are you using?

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I've been pulling slowly and smooth just as soon as I raise the press...but it's still doing it. Can you heat a transfer so much that it sticks to the paper more than the shirt? Should I rub it down...then press it again, then peel it? Any idea?
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Have you tried peeling quickly, if you dont peel quick enough the tranfer will cool and stick.
 
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Default Re: Troubleshooting with a headache

I guess they are plastisol...they stretch when they peel up, Recommended heat is 385 per ProWorld and they are either or Dark or Light. Also, I have been prepressing them before laying them out.
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I just tried another one and it seemed to stick good around the edges but then in the center it has several tiny places where the image didn't peel from the paper and it stuck again. This time I had moderate pressure...400 Degree's...and I let it press for 20 Seconds. The shirts aren't discoloring or anything, I just want to make sure the press is heating enough.

Before, I was heating it to about 385...moderate pressure...and between 15-20 seconds with the same problem, although the higher temp seemed to peel a little better.
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Default Re: Troubleshooting with a headache

ok this is really important. Did you print them yourself or did you order their stock designs. What does that package say as far as what color garment you can apply them to? It sounds like they are the light color tranfers from what you say about them sticking. Try prepressing your shirt for 10 seconds to remove moisture as Sue stated above. try upping your temp to 390 and press for 15 seconds and then peel quickly before the tranfer cools. Let me know if this works. also make sure you have enough pressure, your press should be almost hard to open and close with enough pressure.

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edited to add that 400 probably is good, I was going to suggest that but wanted you to adjust slowly, but if that is getting better result than leave it there.
 
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Ok...I'll try that. They are stock transfers and I've been applying them per the instructions for each particular transfer, working with the light color transfers right now.
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Default Re: Troubleshooting with a headache

How much does humidity play a factor in this game? It's been raining here the past few days and I do have steam rolling off the garments after prepressing them. The last one I pre-pressed it 3 times and let it cool each time...even the last time it still had some steam (not a lot) coming off. I then pressed the transfer, lifted the platen and with a piece of wax like paper and a cloth, rubbed the entire transfer...then pressed it again for 10 seconds and it seemed to peel ok.

Now I don't know if it was the extra moisture I pulled from the shirt or the rub down I gave it before peeling. But that one seemed to work better than the rest.
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humidity will definately play a factor in it sticking. It sounds like you are going in the right direction now. just remember that the three things that will effect the bonding are pressure, temp and time. Also if there is alot of moisture in the air definately make sure to prepress it out first. You also want to make sure it is nice and hot when you peel. But it sounds like your results are getting better. Just remember it is a learning process and you will lose a few shirts and transfers in the process but it sounds like you are on the right track now

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