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Old October 11th, 2007 Oct 11, 2007 7:08:21 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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I just did a test on a Vapor polyester shirt using Imageclip. I used all the same temp/time/pressure instructions (and had already tested a cotton shirt). The image did not transer 100% onto the shirt. I did both sides of the shirt and got the same result.

Is there a trick to using Imageclip on poly or is it a no-go? I thought I had tried it on 50/50 before with good results, but I could be mistaken with that as well (maybe a project for tomorrow).

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Old October 11th, 2007 Oct 11, 2007 7:13:48 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Imageclip on polyester - not?

Some of the plastisol and vinyl companies have different stuff for different fabric types. Maybe it needs to be part cotton to work?
 
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Old October 11th, 2007 Oct 11, 2007 7:22:49 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Imageclip on polyester - not?

Southeast's site doesn't say anything about fabric content. I'm hoping someone has tried it. I can do vinyl with this job but I'm still curious on the imageclip thing.
 
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Old October 11th, 2007 Oct 11, 2007 8:10:44 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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I just did a test on a Vapor polyester shirt using Imageclip. I used all the same temp/time/pressure instructions (and had already tested a cotton shirt). The image did not transer 100% onto the shirt. I did both sides of the shirt and got the same result.

Is there a trick to using Imageclip on poly or is it a no-go? I thought I had tried it on 50/50 before with good results, but I could be mistaken with that as well (maybe a project for tomorrow).

Thanks,
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I have pressed on 50/50 wih good results. As a matter of fact 50/50 is a better fabric since it has less cotton fibers that tend to lift when the transfer paper is peeled off from it. It does not breakdown as bad as cotton during laundry. I have not tried 100% polyester though.

Try pressing for 10 seconds, very heavy pressure at 400F per pressing instructions or use the settings that worked for you on cotton shirt. Open the press but do not peel. Let the transfer cool down so that the polymer will have time to set on the fabric. Press it again for 5 seconds just enough to soften the polymer on the paper side and peel hot immediately. Post press with teflon sheet.

I have used this technique when I use to press stock transfers on course knit fabrics (sweatshirt, canvas, apron etc..). I understand the material you are using is different from the one I described. However, the techique may apply to the problem you are having which is not transfering 100%.

Hope this helps.
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It's worth a shot! I can do it while the cutter is doing the tflex LOL
 
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Default Re: Imageclip on polyester - not?

I press 50/50 with ImageClip almost exclusively. I use very heavy pressure, 400* for 12 seconds and peel hot. One question though...Why would you use a $6 shirt when a $1 shirt would work better?
 
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I press 50/50 with ImageClip almost exclusively. I use very heavy pressure, 400* for 12 seconds and peel hot. One question though...Why would you use a $6 shirt when a $1 shirt would work better?


Because it's what the customer wanted. 50/50 shirts are not as good for high-intensity activities.

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Try pressing for 10 seconds, very heavy pressure at 400F per pressing instructions or use the settings that worked for you on cotton shirt. Open the press but do not peel. Let the transfer cool down so that the polymer will have time to set on the fabric. Press it again for 5 seconds just enough to soften the polymer on the paper side and peel hot immediately. Post press with teflon sheet.
It worked! The big problems turned out to be, the shirts are so damn slick it was a PITA to get everything lined up. And then trying to peel the backing paper off of a 400 deg object really stinks, the shirt stretches a bit. It goes back when washed which I hope he understood.

BUT it worked!

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It worked! The big problems turned out to be, the shirts are so damn slick it was a PITA to get everything lined up. And then trying to peel the backing paper off of a 400 deg object really stinks, the shirt stretches a bit. It goes back when washed which I hope he understood.

BUT it worked!

Thanks for the tip.
Glad to hear that. What I do when the tshirt is a bit distorted is grab it while it is hot by the shoulders and shake in sort of a seesaw motion until it returns to original shape.

BTW did the silicon sheet work for you also?
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Glad to hear that. What I do when the tshirt is a bit distorted is grab it while it is hot by the shoulders and shake in sort of a seesaw motion until it returns to original shape.

BTW did the silicon sheet work for you also?
I ended up using parchment paper, as my teflon sheet has ridges in it now that won't press out no matter what I do (any suggestions on that?). The ridges transfer to the material and it just looks funny till it's washed.

But that did seem to work!
 
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I ended up using parchment paper, as my teflon sheet has ridges in it now that won't press out no matter what I do (any suggestions on that?). The ridges transfer to the material and it just looks funny till it's washed.

But that did seem to work!
Try spaying with water mist or dampen the shirt. If you have teflon protection in your lower platten flip the shirt face down. Press on the backside of the shirt until the steam is gone. It would be like ironing wrinkle off with steam I hope.

I use parchment in place of teflon also. Use that until you get a new teflon sheet.
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