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Old October 7th, 2007 Oct 7, 2007 1:56:55 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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What is the difference between pigment inks and the Everlast heat transfer ink offered by Coastal? Thanks
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Not sure if I am 100% right on this but this is my understanding of it.
Everlast and Magix Mix and inks like that are allegedly formulated for heat transfering and are suppose to be better than the "pigment" inks.
In my readings the heat transfer inks allegedly hold up better. When pressed supposedly the inks don't change color (like yellow turning greenish).

I think pigment ink is just what they are called . The Durabrite ink from Epson is a pigment ink. When using it you need to change the ink settings . +5 cyan +magenta and -20 yellow (some do -15 yellow) to help with color shift when pressing.
I think with the heat transfer inks you don't need to do that.

However I am not sure I am 100% right but thats my understanding.
If I am wrong hopefully someone will correct me.

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I've used both, and haven't really found a big enough difference to buy the expensive "heat transfer" specialty inks. However, there are two different common inkjet ink types. Dye and Pigment. Most of the time, you'll see cheap CIS systems with dye ink. I'd avoid cheap systems all together, but you definitely don't want to print heat transfers with dye ink. Just my $.02, though.

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Hi,
i used durabrite a month ago now i'm using heat transfer ink like magicmix, the diiiference is the price and the fading. In my own observation the durabrite has much fading than heat transfer ink. The price also cheaper for 4oz cost only $25-$32 while durabrite cost $18-28 per cartridges. and also true that you need to change the settings of durabrite to -15y +5magenta +cyan
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With the magic mix ink do you find more nozzle problems like clogging or banding etc ?

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For my own observbation i think its depend from your CISS or Refillabale cartridges because i'm still having problem with clogging. I have 3 printer 1 HP, Epson CX3810 and Ricoh Gelsprinter. I like the gelsprinter because for 3 weeks that i used it still i did not clean the head. The gelsprinter also used pigment ink and much faster than any inkjet printer
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I've used both, and haven't really found a big enough difference to buy the expensive "heat transfer" specialty inks. However, there are two different common inkjet ink types. Dye and Pigment. Most of the time, you'll see cheap CIS systems with dye ink. I'd avoid cheap systems all together, but you definitely don't want to print heat transfers with dye ink. Just my $.02, though.

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even though i now use ht inks. the only problem i ever had with dye inks was that they would press on to the shirt with a vibrant look but after 1 wash it would fade too much. other then that i wish ht inks would be as vibrant.
 
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