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Old September 27th, 2007 Sep 27, 2007 11:28:24 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Question Trouble printing on ImageClip paper

Has anyone ever successfully printed to the ImageClip paper with a Dell Color Laser model 3010cn? For some reason, when it goes through the printer, there are portions of the image that shift to another position on the transfer paper. Rather like the paper is slipping when it goes through. Or maybe the toner is sticking to something in the printer and then eventually attaching itself to the paper in the wrong place.

I've tried every setting there is in the printer driver to change speed and quality, but it doesn't have much effect. And there doesn't seem to be any setting at all for paper weight. Gee, how much paper have I already wasted messing with this, LOL?

I don't need to print much (I'm an embroiderer) and it would be a very infrequent thing, so I'd like to try getting by with this Dell laser if at all possible. It's a fairly new printer and sufficient for all my other needs if I could just figure out what to do with the ImageClip! Thanks for any and all advice.

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Old September 27th, 2007 Sep 27, 2007 12:45:46 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Trouble printing on ImageClip paper

does the same imaging problem happen when you use regular paper? if so it would make sense that it is the printer. if it only happens with ImageClip paper, either the paper is defective (i wouldnt know i have never used ImageClip paper) or the printer just cant handle it....just doing the math on that....2 out of 3 chance that the printer is responsible, and im sure Dell only recommends Laser Paper be used in their printers.

Good luck i hope you figure things out
 
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Default Re: Trouble printing on ImageClip paper

No, there's never been a problem with any other paper. I can print the same image on regular paper before and after the ImageClip one messes up, and the regular paper is fine. I'm wondering if it has something to do with the slick surface of the ImageClip. There are sections of print (usually on the lower half of the paper) that are off by several inches, while the rest is just perfect.

However, there is one other thing to note here. If I run a piece of regular paper immediately after a messed-up ImageClip one, some of the print that SHOULD have been on the transfer paper ends up on the BACK of the next run of regular paper. Leaving me to think that the toner is sticking to something inside the printer...

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it is probably sticking to the fuser... FWIW.... in my use of Duracotton, made for non oil fusers..it will not work with the konica minolta lasers and I am told the Dell gets their toners from KM...It seems that a couple years back, KM changed sources of their toner and from then on we have had some issues..it will print but lays on too much toner which promptly washes out...I might be tempted to find some one with a CLP and try another printer
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Default Re: Trouble printing on ImageClip paper

Ah, then I guess that's both good news and bad news!

The good news is that it wasn't ME doing something wrong. And the bad news is that I was trying to do something the easy way that won't be so easy now. Yep, there may be too much toner ... LOL, it looks like it's sliding off the sheet when I go to print.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
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Default Re: Trouble printing on ImageClip paper

Yep, there may be too much toner ... LOL, it looks like it's sliding off the sheet when I go to print.

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OK, here's a solution for those who may find themselves in the same situation. It sounds kind of weird I know. What I ended up doing in order to print to the ImageClip without having the toner shift on the sheet was to rub it down with a piece of steel wool to take the slick shine off the paper. NOT the kind of steel wool that you would use to scrub things in the kitchen, but the kind you buy at the paint store that's used for refinishing furniture. It's very soft stuff and you only need to take off enough of the gloss for the toner to have something to stick to.

Um, hope that helps anyone else with the same problem.

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Yep, there may be too much toner ... LOL, it looks like it's sliding off the sheet when I go to print.

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OK, here's a solution for those who may find themselves in the same situation. It sounds kind of weird I know. What I ended up doing in order to print to the ImageClip without having the toner shift on the sheet was to rub it down with a piece of steel wool to take the slick shine off the paper. NOT the kind of steel wool that you would use to scrub things in the kitchen, but the kind you buy at the paint store that's used for refinishing furniture. It's very soft stuff and you only need to take off enough of the gloss for the toner to have something to stick to.

Um, hope that helps anyone else with the same problem.

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What you call shifting is not really what is happening. The problem you are having is due to the toner is not fused on the paper. I am not familiar with Dell printer and I am not sure if you have these options:

1) try setting the paper type to card stock or glossy
2) try setting the weight to heavy or Ultra heavy

I have an Oki printer. I set the weight to heavy and the paper type to card stock in order for the toner to fuse on the red paper. I was told by Oki support that their printer compensates the temp of the fuser depending on the thickness and weight of the media. I was told that in order for the toner to fuse properly the temp need to be very high when the media is thick and heavy. So, to solve your problem you need to set those two parameters in your printer.

I know because I get that problem when I print on Imageclip when the printer is sitting idle for a while or the printer has just been turned on.

I also run ten or more blank sheets before I print on Imageclip to keep the fuser hot for the Imageclip red paper.

You do not want to take the glossy finish off the paper. That is what makes the transfer paper self weeding. If you take of the glossy finish the polymer will not release from the unprinted area and it defeats its purpose. All or the majority of the polymer from the green paper will be transferred on the red paper. When you take the glossy finish off the red paper you might as well use a single step transfer paper and not use Imageclip.

Have you tried pressing and peeling the red and green papers? I bet you have a heck of a mess. I bet the unprinted area on the red paper is full of polymer. Bad enough even when the glossy finish is not buffed. Taking away the finish will make it worse. Try pressing the red paper on the shirt and you will find out that the unprinted area is hard instead of soft hand and you may or may not have a polymer border or box.
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Default Re: Trouble printing on ImageClip paper

Thanks, Luis

I think this printer is just not going to be suitable for doing this kind of thing. I was actually able to make a print that was decent after buffing it with the steel wool, and there weren't more than a few flakes here and there on the white part. I guess I didn't buff it hard enough to create the problem you described, but it would be ridiculous to continue messing with this idea at the rate I'm going. Sheesh, all day long!

The only reason I tried this is because my husband is a jailer, and we were looking for ways to keep the inmates busy doing drawings. It keeps them occupied during the day and they get along with each other better than when they have nothing to do. We already post their things to a website and decided to offer them each one tee shirt with their own artwork on it as a gift. Ha! ... then I found out that doing the tee shirt would be the hardest part of all. This whole idea may end up being a bust and they'll just have to settle for the website only, so I can get back to my regular work, which isn't printing, LOL!

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Default Re: Trouble printing on ImageClip paper

I just had that exact same problem with DuracottonHT and an Oki C3400. I set the paper type too "Ultra Heavy" and that fixed it.
 
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