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Ever get a sick feeling in your stomach over a Transfer?



 
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Old September 26th, 2007 Sep 26, 2007 11:13:29 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Have you ever got a sick feeling in your stomach over a transfer?
Well, I have one now. I am wondering if you can help me out as I am new to t-shirt transfers. I wanted a t-shirt to advertise my online website, did a great deal of reading here and decided to go with plastisol transfers. Got my artwork ready, contacted companies for prices and chose 1 that had a great price break @ 500 transfers. They have been really nice and service has been great, only the transfer color is really bad. I just received them yesterday, all 500 and after doing over a dozen transfers at different settings, nothing seems to change the bad color. I am attaching a couple photos here, 1 of the proof that i approved that I was told the transfer would look like on black, and the other is the actual transfer on black. looks like I am back to the drawing board here but because I am new to this I am hoping those of you with experience would look at the proof and the actual transfer picture, and tell me if this is acceptable quality that I shoud expect throught the industry? Am I being to picky? And lastly, is it possible to send these back to the maker, at my expense and have additional color printed on the transfers to correct the problem or do i just need to scrap all of them? I am not mentioning or "knocking" the company, they have been really nice and helpful throught the whole process, and in fact I just notified them less than an hour ago about the problem, I am just hoping for your experienced input here, so that if they tell me that these are acceptable by industry standards, I will have your experience to rely on in my reply to them. Thanks for any help you may share...Curtis here is the Proof I approved....

and here is the transfer on a black t shirt...

My Thanks and appreciation to those of you who take time to respond.....Curtis
 
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Old September 26th, 2007 Sep 26, 2007 12:21:00 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Ever get a sick feeling in your stomach over a Transfer?

how long are you pressing them? try a little less press time if you pressd 10sec, try 9 or 8 secs.if you press too long the transfer ends up soaking too deep into the shirt and the color of the shirt shows through a bit
 
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Old September 26th, 2007 Sep 26, 2007 12:38:32 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks , I tried the 10 seconds reccommended with the transfers all the way down to 5 seconds and heat ranges down to 350 deg( transfers didnt stick well at 5 sec)
 
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Old September 26th, 2007 Sep 26, 2007 12:46:24 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Ever get a sick feeling in your stomach over a Transfer?

Curtis,
The proof that you have is an RGB jpg. When printing full color images the colors have to be converted into the CMYK model which reduces the color "gamut". With plastisol, unless you are doing light/white shirts they are probably done using a technique known as simulated process, see Missingink Simulated Process for a great overview. The vibrant colors that are shown in the above proof are not able to be reproduced using the CMYK or simulated process. Actually, the CMYK would be nicer (give you better transitions from color to color as in the fire you have) but are not able to be used with light/white media. Attached are samples of what the simulated look would be "like". first one with 4 colors, the other with 8 colors, keep in mind that there is also an underbase and the colors may not be reproducable exactly.

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