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Old September 24th, 2007 Sep 24, 2007 1:11:03 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Question Cracking after wash probs

Hey guys,

As the title suggests im having trouble!

Basically i printed my transfer using an ordinary "brother" printer onto some transfer paper i got from my local super market then cut it out and ironed it on.

My problems are

*the design looked "stuck on" ie you could see the border and when touched it felt like it was "ontop" like paper
*after a 30 degree wash the bloomin thing is craked to buggery!

Now i have some higher quality papers from xpres i want to try but imk wondering - without a press am i gonna encounter the same probs???

Also is heat press just not as durable as screen printing???

Ive read alot about people stretching their shirts after or before they press but does this really help? I dont wanna be sending stuff out to my customers that cracks after 5 or 6 washes.
 
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If you want a long lasting screen printed look i would go with plastisol transfers. They give you the same look, feel, and quality as screenprinting. You would need a heat press especially if you plan on selling them to customers. You are not going to get the quality that you are looking for if you are using a household iron.
 
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So is a plastisol transfer a transfer paper?

I was under the impression i need a special printer or cutter?

P.S Excuse my ignorance lol

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Hi Alex,


Plasticol transfers are screen printed onto a paper and then heatpressed onto the garment so i suppose they are the next best thing to screen printing. Have a look at targettransfers.co.uk they have some good info. They are not too expensive but you can't really order a few. You would need a heatpress to apply, an iron will not do. You don't print or cut them as they come ready to apply.

The transfer papers you are using need a combination of pressure and heat, so for professional results you need a heatpress. The transfer looks like it's pressed into the material when done properly.

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Fantastic. Sounds like the best of both worlds really!

Im gonna have a look into it now!

I would like to pursue screen print but as im only making small volumes of prints to start off with it really doesnt seem cost effective to do it that way. so this seems a happy medium.

Looking at a heat press ive founf on ebay also.

So about this strecthing thing? Worth doing if i have a plastisol transfer from these guys and a heat press?

Also plastisol in general is it quite a thick feel transfer? Im looking for the most natural flexible and durable print possible....(just read that back to myself - i dont want much eh?! lol)

P.s Thanks for the happily taken advice fellas!

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Hey guys,

As the title suggests im having trouble!

Basically i printed my transfer using an ordinary "brother" printer onto some transfer paper i got from my local super market then cut it out and ironed it on.

My problems are

*the design looked "stuck on" ie you could see the border and when touched it felt like it was "ontop" like paper
*after a 30 degree wash the bloomin thing is craked to buggery!

Now i have some higher quality papers from xpres i want to try but imk wondering - without a press am i gonna encounter the same probs???

Also is heat press just not as durable as screen printing???

Ive read alot about people stretching their shirts after or before they press but does this really help? I dont wanna be sending stuff out to my customers that cracks after 5 or 6 washes.
You are confused. You can only do the stretching with iron All paper not paper you buy at your local office supply store. The iron all and now iron all for darks are the 2 papers I would recommend. Although the person is right about the plastisol transfers that is only if you are doing any volume printing.
Also.. you should not be using a brother printer to make transfers . it use a dye ink.
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