Discuss the various aspects of heat press technology. Transfer paper, inks, plastisol transfers, vinyl cutters, printers, commercial usage, durability, suppliers, etc.
Hi people,
I'm having a problem many people have. After washing my t-shirt designs, they fade. What i want to ask is, when buying the ink cartridges, are they labeled durabrite on the packet and should they? Cuz the inks i'm buying aren't.
jeff
Your printer has a durabrite logo on it. if it does then that is all it can take. what is your model. The problem a lot of you folks have is you think that the paper is immune from fading after washing. There is not perfect paper out there that will prevent this in the long run. Then you take into account what the end user is washing their tees in.. Hot, cold, what type of detergent. The only way to really have a non fading shirt is to go with screen print, DTG, vinyl and maybe a few others but not with ink jet printer. There is going to be fading. How long it takes really depends on the quality of the paper, and the ink you use. Lou
Lou,
I had this same problem with my c88 durabrite inks, but my Everlast pigment inks are doing the same thing.
When I washed my garments, the fabric really showed through the print and gave the image a faded look. I am using IronAll from NewMilford and had used my JP12 to press it.
I printed the same image on the blue grid opaque paper from NewMilford and the colors were beautiful. No fading at all. Could the problem be the amount of pressure being used to press the image? Would too much pressure make the garment show up through the image and make it look "faded"?
By the way, I read some of your earlier posts about the JP12 and am waiting on my new MightyPress 16x20 which is going to be delivered tomorrow. I couldn' imagine filling my 100+ orders with that little machine. Getting a straight image is very difficult.
One more question about the opaque transfer. I know that there is going to be a plasticy feel to it, nature of the beast, but is there a way to minimize this effect? I've tried rubbing over the images with a garment as in your instructional videos, but am having a challenge with the garment after it comes out of the wash. Seems very hard.
Any help is appreciated and keep the videos coming.
Lou,
I had this same problem with my c88 durabrite inks, but my Everlast pigment inks are doing the same thing.
When I washed my garments, the fabric really showed through the print and gave the image a faded look. I am using IronAll from NewMilford and had used my JP12 to press it.
I printed the same image on the blue grid opaque paper from NewMilford and the colors were beautiful. No fading at all. Could the problem be the amount of pressure being used to press the image? Would too much pressure make the garment show up through the image and make it look "faded"?
By the way, I read some of your earlier posts about the JP12 and am waiting on my new MightyPress 16x20 which is going to be delivered tomorrow. I couldn' imagine filling my 100+ orders with that little machine. Getting a straight image is very difficult.
One more question about the opaque transfer. I know that there is going to be a plasticy feel to it, nature of the beast, but is there a way to minimize this effect? I've tried rubbing over the images with a garment as in your instructional videos, but am having a challenge with the garment after it comes out of the wash. Seems very hard.
Any help is appreciated and keep the videos coming.
Kevin
Were the shirts white?. Plasticy feel.. gee I wonder why.. could be because that is what it is. This is why I hate any type of opaque transfer. Some are thinner than others but still. Glad your getting the bigger press. getting the image straight is difficult.. ahhhh... hello... I solved my problem... Hope this somewhat helps. Too much pressure? How much ink are you putting on the transfer..
Yes, the shirt I used with the IronAll was white - a 50/50 Jerzee shirt. On that image, it was set at 200dpi. I am then printing on plain paper setting and "fine". I am wondering if I need to lay more ink on the transfer to prevent the white from showing. I was wondering what resolution you set your images at. Your work always looks nice.
would you be able to share your printer settings with me, and then I could try those? I've noticed on my c88+, when I print in text or text&image under normal paper options, I get banding every 1/4 inch, so I always have printed using fine or photo. ???
I used the same resolution for the opaque image. Results were fabulous on the image. I'm just up front with my customers about the "feel" and have a sample to show them.
As for the "too much pressure?" I guess I don't know what too much or too little is. Had a hard time getting a feel with the jp12. I hope the mightpress will be easier.
I've been practicing with scrap shirts and the shirts I press that have "less" pressure don't fade as much. I'm wondering if I'm "pushing" the image into the shirt too much? Is that possible or maybe not laying enough ink.
I know that there are many variables, but any insight would be great.
Yes, the shirt I used with the IronAll was white - a 50/50 Jerzee shirt. On that image, it was set at 200dpi. I am then printing on plain paper setting and "fine". I am wondering if I need to lay more ink on the transfer to prevent the white from showing. I was wondering what resolution you set your images at. Your work always looks nice.
would you be able to share your printer settings with me, and then I could try those? I've noticed on my c88+, when I print in text or text&image under normal paper options, I get banding every 1/4 inch, so I always have printed using fine or photo. ???
I used the same resolution for the opaque image. Results were fabulous on the image. I'm just up front with my customers about the "feel" and have a sample to show them.
As for the "too much pressure?" I guess I don't know what too much or too little is. Had a hard time getting a feel with the jp12. I hope the mightpress will be easier.
I've been practicing with scrap shirts and the shirts I press that have "less" pressure don't fade as much. I'm wondering if I'm "pushing" the image into the shirt too much? Is that possible or maybe not laying enough ink.
I know that there are many variables, but any insight would be great.
thanks,
Kevin
When I print a iron All type transfer I use the photo/text mode. I found that too much ink is not good. It may even cause the shirt to fade faster. The ink on a iron all transfer does not dry into the paper like a lot of other papers. I use med to heavy pressure and press at 375 for 16 seconds. The dpi does not mean anything. It is the printer setting that I am concerned about. Yeah that JP12 is not a great one for figuring the pressure. I would keep it at heavy pressure.
Bada,
I noticed on your "tote bag" tutorial, you used mouse pad to raise the center and prevent the seems from interfering. Is that a regular size mouse pad. It looked really big, but I wasn't sure.
lewis is right. I ibought the oversized mouse pad at ofice depot. It was about $14.00 when I got it at. I was in there the otherday and they are now selling for around $6.00. The one I used in the video was cut down slightly to fit the tote bag. I use several size mouse pads for diffeent things. I have small ones for doing pocket transfers as well. I think this is just part of having the right equipment in doing heat pressing. heat press, mouse pads and alignment tool, parchment paper.
Is this something you tried. I would like to know if it works.
I tried it. I didn't think it did much, but I might not have put it on thick enough. I printed a sample and sprayed half of it. I did two quick coats. I realized later on that I was supposed to put on one coat, wait 12 hours I think, and then coat again. When I washed it, I didn't notice anything different.
Here's the original link - Fading and bleeding tips for dye inks. It seems that this was geared more towards "Dye" based inks, and maybe even opaque transfers.
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