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Old April 28th, 2007 Apr 28, 2007 9:02:01 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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i read an 'old' thread about the possibility of water-based ink transfer becoming a reality. the thread got a little off-topic and then died. i was wondering if anybody has heard anything about this possibility? rodney, fizz, tdot?

i'm very curious...

ps: here is an article comparing plastisol and water-based inks in case any fellow noob is interested in learning more about them
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Default Re: water-based ink transfers?

It wasn't talking about becoming a reality, it is a reality. That said, I don't personally know of any of the custom transfer companies that offer that service (which is not to say no-one does, but if anyone does it's yet to be mentioned on the forums). They are already physically possible to make though.
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Old April 29th, 2007 Apr 29, 2007 6:17:21 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: water-based ink transfers?

i understand it can be done in theory but i was asking if it had become a reality in the sense that a water-based ink transfer is a real product currently available in the market place.

also, does anybody have a new link (or the article text) for the (now) dead link jasonda posted. it seemed to be a eureka moment in the original thread and i'm interested in reading it...
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i understand it can be done in theory
Again, it's not "in theory". Just because it's not widely available, doesn't mean it suddenly becomes unreal or in some way theoretical

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also, does anybody have a new link (or the article text) for the (now) dead link jasonda posted.
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Default Re: water-based ink transfers?

yikes, that looks like more production hassle than its worth! no wonder we haven't heard much from the custom transfer companies haha. that article was written 3 years ago and still nothing in the marketplace... anybody?
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Default Re: water-based ink transfers?

...I too wish it were as easy as it sounds. Im all for eco.


but, everytime I look into it or start up a conversation with other screen printers etc... it ends short.


so far, the gereal opinion i've gathered from the trade is:


"more trouble than it's worth"


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Default Re: water-based ink transfers?

lucy, can TdotT adjust their stretch plastisol transfer so that it has a softer hand? i'm printing on white cotton so opacity is not really an issue.

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Default Re: water-based ink transfers?

i think so.


it depends on how much stretch you need.

if not a lot,

a nice thin pass of Adhesive under the transfer ink color would not add too much to it...i think.

of course it would meet the typical screen print hand. For an invisable/touch hand beyond the screen print type, perhaps another printing process would do it.







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Default Re: water-based ink transfers?

lucy, how far has TdotT gotten in investigating water-based transfers? i (and others i'm sure) would be willing to pay extra for such a service if you can find a way to make it economical and practical on your end. i'm looking to make a sizable order too (4,000-6,000 transfers).
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lucy, how far has TdotT gotten in investigating water-based transfers? i (and others i'm sure) would be willing to pay extra for such a service if you can find a way to make it economical and practical on your end. i'm looking to make a sizable order too (4,000-6,000 transfers).

the Tranfer-Brain tryed it, did it but ended up with a high percentage of defects.


Believe, I've tryed to raise money and time to further this in research and development, but i've come to a dead end.


Sure it may be possible and I would love to be the One in the transfer-tech-break-thru sunday paper , but at this time I just dont have the resources to expore that possibility.

Keeping in mind that we still need to service our clients, and that's prioraty right now.

But who knows, now that you have dropped the seed, I'll make it a topic for discussion around here.


Have you contacted any of the other Transfer companies about it ?

may be there is someone out there that already has gotten it down to quality and economical.


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Default Re: water-based ink transfers?

i'm going to call around sometime next week and see what's up. i'm knee deep in a garment deal with china right now, but i'll keep you all posted as soon as i find anything out (good or bad).
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that article was written 3 years ago and still nothing in the marketplace...
Even worse: five years ago according to the date on the article. It's the archive copy that's three years old.

It certainly doesn't bode well for the practicality of producing and selling them in the way that plastisol transfers are done. It's worth contacting a few companies though - many screenprinters don't advertise the fact that they are willing to do waterbased printing (you have to ask), so it's at least possible that there are some transfer makers that are the same.

That's not the direction I'd bet, but not having asked any I'm not in a position to know for sure.
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