IronAll Fading--Is this much fading the norm? And acceptable?
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IronAll Fading--Is this much fading the norm? And acceptable?
IronAll Fading--Is this much fading the norm? And acceptable?
Hi Guys--
The pressing information--370 Degrees, 17 Secs, IronAll paper (printed with Epson C88 in Photo Setting), medium pressure. I washed in cold water, inside out, tumble dry low.
The picture below is the before and after results. Is this sort of fading the norm? It seems excessive and I do not know if I am doing something wrong, or if this is just the expected and acceptable results of using IronAll (actually, Everlast Soft from Coastal with the blue back).
If the fading is due to what you see might be a pressing problem, please advise on what adjustments you would recommend.
Re: IronAll Fading--Is this much fading the norm? And acceptable?
From experience, some fading is gonna happen no matter what. Your picture does seem to have faded more than the norm. Are you using dye ink or pigment ink? If you're using dye ink, that's the first thing I'd change. I don't know if pressure has a lot to do with the fading.
In addition, I press my iron all transfers at 375 degrees for 25 seconds.
Ryan
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Re: IronAll Fading--Is this much fading the norm? And acceptable?
It could be down to the washing powder you use. If you wash yor clothes with a 'bio' washing powder this will fade your clothes as it contains a bleaching agent. It is a problem I encountered for a while. Now I make sure I send washing instructions with all my shirts directing to use a 'non-bio' washing powder & there is a big difference.
Re: IronAll Fading--Is this much fading the norm? And acceptable?
From what I understand (not much) is that bio's contain a bleaching agent & non bio's dont. I dont know the ins & outs but I did recently print 2 identical shirts & washed one with bio & the other non-bio & there was significantly more fading with the bio washing powder.
Steve
Re: IronAll Fading--Is this much fading the norm? And acceptable?
Hi Andy,
How long did you wait before you washed your shirt? The directions I have say to wait at least 24 hours. I have used both dye-based and pigmented inks with my Epson 2200 on IronAll and have had good results with both. They will fade a little after washing but I haven't had any complaints yet.
Re: IronAll Fading--Is this much fading the norm? And acceptable?
First, don't print in photo mode. Reduce your printing to text/photo. You are adding too much ink. This paper does not absorb the ink as other types of light transfer paper does. If you notice after printing the transfer the ink is not drying very fast. One thing you may want to do is place the transfer under your press if it is on while you print the next print. By the time your print is done the transfer on the press will be dry. I received some new ink to try from a vendor that is supposed to reduce the wash-ability and fading problems with a special technique. I had problems with my cartridges so I am waiting for new ones. I will be doing a test and sending the result to you guys here. If this works as my supplier says it does then I will also post where I bought it from. Lou
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Re: IronAll Fading--Is this much fading the norm? And acceptable?
Maybe You Can Try To Change Your Ink,try Using Magic Mix Or Any Heat Transfer Ink Like Everlast Ink. Because It Happen To Me With Durabrite I Have The Same Result Like You Posted(to Much Fade).now I'm Using Everlast Ink From Coastal Less Fade.
Re: IronAll Fading--Is this much fading the norm? And acceptable?
I am also still having a bit of the same trouble. I've been working with my new Mighty Press, and have done some tests and am running them through the wash right now. The only thing I haven't done is waited 24 hours to wash them. Is this written somewhere for IronAll? I remember when I used heat transfers from Bestblanks.com, I'd have to wait 24 hours to wash. Maybe I answered my own question! Will press again and then wait to wash.
any more advice is welcome! Below is the latest test run I what I pressed and how. Just trying to get a feel for it.
light pressure - 350 - 16 sec and 22 sec
light pressure - 360 - 16 sec and 22 sec
medium pressure - 350 16 and 22 sec
medium pressure - 360- 16 and 22 sec
Heavy pressure - 350- 16 and 22 sec
Heavy pressure - 360 - 16 and 22 sec
Re: IronAll Fading--Is this much fading the norm? And acceptable?
I use pigmented inks, ironall, and an epson 1280. I was having the same problem. Found that I was not using enough pressure. Ink was getting 'on' the shirts, but not 'in' them. Also, the fuzzier the shirt is, the more washed out the design will look after washing. To find out if this is your issue, press the shirt again. If it sharpens back up, fuzz is your problem. Kind of like trying to see through dirty glasses.
Re: IronAll Fading--Is this much fading the norm? And acceptable?
Time and tempature. 375-400 degrees a must, 25-30 seconds is very important as well. Medium pressure is important, but not as critical. This info is straight from the manufactorer.
Re: IronAll Fading--Is this much fading the norm? And acceptable?
For this particular post I guess that the Ink must be the issue but detergents are a variable that we don't control well. I'm going to check upon the bio issue and see if I can bring some "light" on that issue. I had the idea that ecological detergents had less phosphates, causing less polution but with lower "washing power".
Re: IronAll Fading--Is this much fading the norm? And acceptable?
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Originally Posted by toastynhere
I am also still having a bit of the same trouble. I've been working with my new Mighty Press, and have done some tests and am running them through the wash right now. The only thing I haven't done is waited 24 hours to wash them. Is this written somewhere for IronAll? I remember when I used heat transfers from Bestblanks.com, I'd have to wait 24 hours to wash. Maybe I answered my own question! Will press again and then wait to wash.
any more advice is welcome! Below is the latest test run I what I pressed and how. Just trying to get a feel for it.
light pressure - 350 - 16 sec and 22 sec
light pressure - 360 - 16 sec and 22 sec
medium pressure - 350 16 and 22 sec
medium pressure - 360- 16 and 22 sec
Heavy pressure - 350- 16 and 22 sec
Heavy pressure - 360 - 16 and 22 sec
Kevin
I never press more than 16 second at 375 and med to heavy pressure. I have yet to have a problem with that.
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