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C88+ CIS setup, colors changed



 
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Old April 26th, 2007 Apr 26, 2007 6:02:47 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default C88+ CIS setup, colors changed

I just set up an Everlast CIS system from Coastal and it's printing off color.

I am printing the same files, with the same settings that I had with the OEM inks and am getting results that are WAY different. My reds look hot pink, purples look blue and browns look greenish.

I tried their tech support, but they don't seem to know much more than I do... I have tried adujsting the color profile, -15 +15 +15 and a whole range of anything I could think of. I have adjusted, gamma, brightness, etc. I just can't get it to match my screen OR the old prints.

I don't understand what is going on. The only variable that should have changed was the inks and coastal insists that they should match the oem inks.

I'm frustrated and lost! Please help a newbie!!! I have a few huge orders 100+ eachand really want to do a great job for them, but I can't get the images they gave me now with these new inks.

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Old April 26th, 2007 Apr 26, 2007 6:21:44 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: C88+ CIS setup, colors changed

when you used the original ink, did you have to adjust anything to correct the color?
 
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Old April 26th, 2007 Apr 26, 2007 6:36:01 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: C88+ CIS setup, colors changed

No, I did not have to make any color corrections at all with the original inks. That's the part that is so frustrating/confusing. I would assume the prints would be exactly the same color now, but they are not.

Coastal stated that I should not have to make any color corrections and they were surprised when I mentioned I was having troubles with the ink.

Any more help would be greatly appreciated.

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Old April 26th, 2007 Apr 26, 2007 6:51:42 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: C88+ CIS setup, colors changed

try turning off color management in your printer driver and using the color management in your graphics software.
 
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Old April 26th, 2007 Apr 26, 2007 7:05:45 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: C88+ CIS setup, colors changed

I'm working with Adobe Photoshop elements right now. I have turned off the color management in the printer options, but then the colors seem to get even worse.


My purples...turn almost black. My Blacks look more like blue (this is happening with the control management on and off, but worse with the printer drivers off.)


I am currently running RGB color mode in the program, but it doesn't have a CMYK option available.

I'm trying to think if there's something else I'm missing.

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Old April 26th, 2007 Apr 26, 2007 7:54:19 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: C88+ CIS setup, colors changed

In Adobe PSE select the Edit menu, Color Settings. From there you can tell it what to do. From the help system you can get an overview of color management settings.
 
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Default Re: C88+ CIS setup, colors changed

is the color messed up before you transfer it on a shirt/stuff? or after? or both?
 
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Old April 27th, 2007 Apr 27, 2007 7:01:19 AM -   #8 (permalink)
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The prints look messed up enough on plain paper, we haven't even printed on transfer paper yet since it's so expensive, so no presses yet with it either
 
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Default Re: C88+ CIS setup, colors changed

BINKI,
Thanks for the color management info. I think I got it and it's looking like prints I used to get!

I'm going to actually do some test prints shortly and see what they look like. I'm pumped up about using these everlast inks....$...Finally gonna save some money.

Again, Thanks all for the help. If something else comes up...I'll write again.

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Old April 27th, 2007 Apr 27, 2007 1:18:53 PM -   #10 (permalink)
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Default Re: C88+ CIS setup, colors changed

Did you try running a printer nozzle check to see if all the colors are printing?
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Old April 27th, 2007 Apr 27, 2007 1:23:21 PM -   #11 (permalink)
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Default Re: C88+ CIS setup, colors changed

Prometheus (great name by the way),

Yes, all nozzles are firing perfectly and my prints are coming out better after changing APE to full color management.

I've pressed a few shirts since I got home from work and the colors do look really good now.

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Old February 8th, 2008 Feb 8, 2008 9:36:59 PM -   #12 (permalink)
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Default Re: C88+ CIS setup, colors changed

I dont mean to hijack this thread but I am having an issue with my new printer not matching the colors on the screen as well.

First off, I dont have the software stated here. As I matter of fact I have NO special software as yet. I'm using a bologna program from Avery that I downloaded after I bought some of their heat transfer paper.

Secondly, when I was using my Dell printer the colors matched well until I had an issue with opaque paper. I did some research on these forums and bought a new Epson C120. Now when I try to print projects that I did before with my Dell the colors are WAY off. The purple that before was a lovely shade of violet is now almost black.

I've tried a few different settings but without a good graphics program I'm not sure what else to do. Any help on this would be appreciated.

I am fairly new to the heat transfer business but I am excited now that I have read about all the possiblities on these forums.

Thanks in advance for the advice!
 
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I dont mean to hijack this thread but I am having an issue with my new printer not matching the colors on the screen as well.

First off, I dont have the software stated here. As I matter of fact I have NO special software as yet. I'm using a bologna program from Avery that I downloaded after I bought some of their heat transfer paper.

Secondly, when I was using my Dell printer the colors matched well until I had an issue with opaque paper. I did some research on these forums and bought a new Epson C120. Now when I try to print projects that I did before with my Dell the colors are WAY off. The purple that before was a lovely shade of violet is now almost black.

I've tried a few different settings but without a good graphics program I'm not sure what else to do. Any help on this would be appreciated.

I am fairly new to the heat transfer business but I am excited now that I have read about all the possiblities on these forums.

Thanks in advance for the advice!
I sent Rachel info on this but I want to add the info here as well. A lot of people make their designs and then send them to thier printer and are a little dismayed when they see that the color that is printed is not what they have on their screens. You all need to get in the habit of printing with actual colors, meaning use the hex color codes. An example the color code for balck is #000000. If you take the eyedropper on your tool bar and place it over a color in your design and lets say it is supposed to be black but the eyedropper reads 000002 then you are not printing black but in fact printing a blackish color and the printer reads that number. Simply highlight your design and change the design color code to 000000 and click. Lou If you do not know color codes then go to google and type hex color codes charts.
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Default Re: C88+ CIS setup, colors changed

Lou....what program are you referring to?
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Default Re: C88+ CIS setup, colors changed

Lou thanks for this info it would help a bunch if this Avery program used hex codes. Unfortunetly it doesn't it uses only the color wheel RGB style.

Is there a cheat code list that will transfer hex color codes into RGBs?

*edit Found some conversions charts but the colors printed still seem off. What "mode" should I be printing in? I've been using Best Photo on the Epson

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