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Old April 18th, 2007 Apr 18, 2007 10:03:41 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys, sorry if this has been posted already.

okay so i know what plastisol transfers are but i'm still unsure of it's quality as compared to screen printing. Can someone describe the similarities (or differences) with traditional screen printing on a tee? ie. touch, feel, what happens when stretched, how it looks like, rubbery feel?, smooth feel?. Also if the durability is comparable to screen printing.

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okay so i know what plastisol transfers are but i'm still unsure of it's quality as compared to screen printing. Can someone describe the similarities (or differences) with traditional screen printing on a tee? ie. touch, feel, what happens when stretched, how it looks like, rubbery feel?, smooth feel?. Also if the durability is comparable to screen printing.
Same thing on all accounts Just as there are different types of screen printing feels, there are different types of screen printed transfer feels.

Check this link for more info: plastisol transfers VS screen printing

And this one: Plastisol Transfers vs. Screen Printed vs. Heat Transfer
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It is the predominant method of heat transfer printing for a reason. It is the closest you will get to screen printing with a heat press.

You should contact a company that specializes in them and request a sample to try.

If the plastisol transfer does not meet your approval then you will need to invest some money in screen print equipment.
 
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You should just go and order a few stock designs you would like on your own personal tees. The plastisol transfers we have used are super quality.
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It is the predominant method of heat transfer printing for a reason. It is the closest you will get to screen printing with a heat press.

You should contact a company that specializes in them and request a sample to try.

If the plastisol transfer does not meet your approval then you will need to invest some money in screen print equipment.
Thanks for the info. So I'm reading up on a lot of plastisol posts lately and I guess that for the most part, a lot of people can't really tell the difference if the tee was screen printed or plastisol transfered. Here's another question I'm trying to figure out.

When using the plastisol method, can I screen print using regular inkjet iron-on transfer paper? i have a bunch leftover and thought i could finish them up. If not, where can i get some blank transfer paper and is there a specific name (i google transfer paper and I always get "iron on" in the results) to it?

That's it for now and thanks for the help!
 
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Those are two different methods. Screen printing and inkjet transfers are two completely different things. Read this link for more info: what is a plastisol (silk screen printed) heat transfer: a definition

Unless you have a screen printing setup, you can't make plastisol transfers on your own.
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Those are two different methods. Screen printing and inkjet transfers are two completely different things. Read this link for more info: what is a plastisol (silk screen printed) heat transfer: a definition
thanks rodney, i kinda get it now.

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Unless you have a screen printing setup, you can't make plastisol transfers on your own.
Are there any differences (except from using plastisol ink) in the process of screen printing onto the release paper from printing on the garment? Ie. mesh count, pressure of the squeegee, drying period? I already do screen printing onto garment and wanna know what I should change to accomodate the plastisol method...once again thanks to all tee junkies.
 
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My understanding is that the primary difference would be curing. The transfers are only "flash" cured. Enough that they are no longer liquid but still liquid enough to flow when additional heat and pressure are applied. The final cure is done with the heat press.

Also, I heard that most screen printers who make transfers use a vacuum platen to hold the transfer while printing in lieu of adhesive.
 
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Are there any differences (except from using plastisol ink) in the process of screen printing onto the release paper from printing on the garment? Ie. mesh count, pressure of the squeegee, drying period? I already do screen printing onto garment and wanna know what I should change to accomodate the plastisol method...once again thanks to all tee junkies.
Here's a thread that explains the process of screen printing onto transfer paper. Maybe you could post a follow up in that thread to ask the original poster about if the mesh count changes: How to Make your own Plastisol Transfers
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