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Hi All,
I Post Some Experiment Or Observation About Different Kind Of Ink Using Iron All Paper, I Use Hp Ink 56,57. Epson Duribrite (epson Original), Then Ciss Ink From Ebay (epson Photo).the Result Are In The Picture. 10 Washes With Detergent And Run In Dryer.
Did you do a control without the dryer? Just wondering if it's the dryer causing the problems or if you still haven't found the correct ink/paper/settings combination yet.
Theres No Problem With The Printout,i Just Wanna Show That Hp Ink Are Also Better Than Epson Using Iron All Paper.the Picture Shows Different Ink Printout. If You Observe That Hp Is More Vibrant Than Epson.these Are Already Wash 10 Times. Using Normal Wash(washing Machine And Dryer).these Are Only My Observation.
I've also heard from a lot of people outside the forum that dye ink is better than pigment ink when doing inkjet transfers. I'm also confused, just did'nt bother to research on this since I'm using a laser printer now.
Thanks for sharing those pictures, I'm confused I thought epson ink was best for ink jet ? I will share a year ago I made a trnsfer with my hp and the print did hold up very well. I hope some of the members with more experience will comment on your findings. ...... Good luck ...JB
Hi All,
I Post Some Experiment Or Observation About Different Kind Of Ink Using Iron All Paper, I Use Hp Ink 56,57. Epson Duribrite (epson Original), Then Ciss Ink From Ebay (epson Photo).the Result Are In The Picture. 10 Washes With Detergent And Run In Dryer.
Why are the images not the exact same? That could be distorting your results. Also, are you washing like you "should" with cold water, or like every normal customer actually will be washing, with hot water? Are you letting it sit in the washer for a while, giving the dye ink a chance to potentially bleed, or transferring immediately?
Tons of variables at play here, and I'm not convinced ;)
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Originally Posted by vctradingcubao
I've also heard from a lot of people outside the forum that dye ink is better than pigment ink when doing inkjet transfers. I'm also confused, just did'nt bother to research on this since I'm using a laser printer now.
Where have you head this? Throughout this forum and the HTFDP Yahoo board, I've always heard pigmented is the way to go, and it makes sense. Dye-based ink can bleed in the wash, which simply doesn't lend the air of a professional product; pigmented ink will not bleed.
Just woundering if the HP inks are VIVERA inks that you used. VIVERA inks are a piment ink. I did try HP dye Base inks on some heat transfers and the image bleed on opaque not on iron all. It depends on the transfer paper and method of washing.
No Not Vivera,i Just Telling You This Because I Confused Also All In Forum Are Using Pigment Ink.that Why I Conduct Experimentation Between Hp Ink And Epson Duribrite And Ciss.if You Not Satisfied Conduct Experiment Also.by The Wat I Washed The T-shirt By Normal Washing Using Hot Water And Detegent.
Where have you head this? Throughout this forum and the HTFDP Yahoo board, I've always heard pigmented is the way to go, and it makes sense. Dye-based ink can bleed in the wash, which simply doesn't lend the air of a professional product; pigmented ink will not bleed.
Hey, Twinge. Jim (DAGuide) was making a point with you on this previous thread: Normal ink vs Special ink
I have also heard some similar stories as this.
Although pigment ink will not bleed when washed, the colors you get when using pigment ink are dull, and your print will fade even after only 1 wash. "No bleeding, just fading".
And although, in general, dye ink can bleed when washed, some do not, when heat is applied before washing. These types of dye ink are therefore very ideal for heat transfer printing on shirts. You get very good, bright colors, and you don't get the bleeding that everyone wants to avoid.
Just stories though, but I have heard it more than enough to give dye ink the benefit of the doubt,
Hey, Twinge. Jim (DAGuide) was making a point with you on this previous thread: Normal ink vs Special ink
Aha, I'd forgotten about that. However, do note that they are reffering to a special custom-made dye-based ink -- not standard HP inks or similar.
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Originally Posted by vctradingcubao
Although pigment ink will not bleed when washed, the colors you get when using pigment ink are dull, and your print will fade even after only 1 wash. "No bleeding, just fading".
Not all pigmented inks fade either, and this also depends on the paper used a bit. I've heard some people say that they thought the Durabrite prints were a bit dull, but there are also 3rd party inks (Magic Mix, etc.) which are supposed to be ideal for t-shirts.
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Originally Posted by vctradingcubao
Just stories though, but I have heard it more than enough to give dye ink the benefit of the doubt,
...and a second chance.
Sure, it might be worth reinvestigating. I'm just of the opinion that if you have to tell a customer to wash a shirt inside out in cold water or the inks will bleed, you aren't really giving them a professional product. This usually tends to be true for dye-based inks, thus the commonly held warning.
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Originally Posted by polomac
Just woundering if the HP inks are VIVERA inks that you used. VIVERA inks are a piment ink.
Actually, I think it was determined that only the black Vivera ink was pigmented -- the rest are still dye-based AFAIK.
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