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T-BOT · March 2nd, 2007

Anyone know of any company that prices Plastisol Spot Color Transfers By Size and Quantity Only ? ....not including the amount of colors in the pricing.

Someone asked me about it today.... ...I'm stumped, please help me understand if this is possible.

thanks in advance.

Rodney · March 5th, 2007

FMExpressions does this with their "freedom" line. They don't look exactly the same as spot color transfers though.

T-BOT · March 6th, 2007

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Originally Posted by Rodney


	FMExpressions does this with their "freedom" line. They don't look exactly the same as spot color transfers though.

what type of transfers are they ? are they Plastisol ?

...I know multi-color transfers can be made sort of the same way like NYLON transfers are...you know like the ones that print on plastic bottles, man made fibers/clothing etc.... these too are priced by size/qty.

Please Help, I'm a little confused here.

Mr.4ColorProcess · March 6th, 2007

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Originally Posted by T-BOT


	Anyone know of any company that prices Plastisol Spot Color Transfers By Size and Quantity Only ? ....not including the amount of colors in the pricing. Someone asked me about it today.... ...I'm stumped, please help me understand if this is possible. thanks in advance.

Plastisol inks are used almost exclusively for screen printing. Knowing this, I can't imagine a plastisol transfer manufacturer not charging for another screen.

monkeylantern · March 6th, 2007

We're not quite sure how the "Freedom" line works, but they are apparently plastisol.

Maybe Nathan can come along and explain.

Rodney · March 12th, 2007

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Originally Posted by T-BOT


	what type of transfers are they ? are they Plastisol ? ...I know multi-color transfers can be made sort of the same way like NYLON transfers are...you know like the ones that print on plastic bottles, man made fibers/clothing etc.... these too are priced by size/qty. Please Help, I'm a little confused here.

Yes, Nathan told me that they are plastisol transfers. I hope it's OK that I quote a snippet from a recent email from him here.

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	Freedom is an all plastisol transfer that is produced in a process-like method. It is completely screen printed and the only digital element is in the creation of your artwork

The transfers I got didn't have the spot color reproduction I was expecting (didn't come out as a solid color), but he said that some of the colors I used were out of the color range. They do have 300+ colors that they can print as a solid color.

T-BOT · March 12th, 2007

wow!

that is amaizing.

full color screen printed plastisol transfers that are not a 4-color process.

what else can you tell us about them ? ....from your transfer tests.

what are they like, look, feel, durability etc....

thanks in advance.

Rodney · March 12th, 2007

You can see photos of it in my other thread here. I have more closeups as well:

It's a glossy look. Durability is very good so far.

Color reproduction would be the only thing I would say to watch out for.

NathanAnderson · March 13th, 2007

Sorry for the delayed response. I was at the ISS AC show.

Freedom is based on process technology. It is not exactly the same as 4-color process, but uses the same basic idea to achieve color. That is the best way I can explain it without giving up any secrets.

It is screen printed using plastisol inks. It is designed to give full color options in small quantities. It is an option for those that want the same kind of detail as DTG or Digital Transfers with the washability and ease of use of plastisol transfers.

As far as color range goes, we are building a color pallet of 300+ colors that can be accurately reproduced so that the customer gets the color they pick. Some shades are not going to be available.

It is definitely not recommended for anyone looking match pantones for a client that must have a perfect match. Many corporations are specific about wanting exact matches on their colors. Unfortunately the solution for those accounts is still to pay by the color.

I hope this helps to clear it up. I'll be happy to answer any other questions.

T-BOT · March 13th, 2007

thanks Nathan, thats great news.

Q: is it possible to do them with color blends ? like light yellow to dark orange.

also, do they need a white border around the design ?

the reason I ask is because everyday we turn away jobs because with our 4-color screen print process plastisol transfers and with litho-full color transfers a 500-1000 25x38 size sheet minimum is required.

thanks in advance.

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Gwen · March 13th, 2007

If they are stock designs they are priced by the design. Custom transfers are always priced by size, amount of sheets and amount of colors. Digital transfers are priced by the size and amounts. I would not recommend this unless it is for small orders or just for certain occasions like birthday parties and not company logos.

NathanAnderson · March 13th, 2007

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	thanks Nathan, thats great news. Q: is it possible to do them with color blends ? like light yellow to dark orange. also, do they need a white border around the design ? the reason I ask is because everyday we turn away jobs because with our 4-color screen print process plastisol transfers and with litho-full color transfers a 500-1000 25x38 size sheet minimum is required. thanks in advance. :

It is possible to include halftones in the design. We give the customer an artwork spec to follow in setting up their work. It explains how to format the art to include the blends you are referring to.

Thanks

T-BOT · March 13th, 2007

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Originally Posted by NathanAnderson


	It is possible to include halftones in the design. We give the customer an artwork spec to follow in setting up their work. It explains how to format the art to include the blends you are referring to. Thanks

ok, so it is possible to do half-tones as long as the customer creates the art according to your specs. Good to know.

How about the white border around each design, can it be done without it ?

thanks.

Rodney · March 13th, 2007

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	Custom transfers are always priced by size, amount of sheets and amount of colors.

Hi Gwen, actually, in this case, FMExpressions is selling a custom transfer that is not based on the number of colors in the design

treadhead · April 19th, 2007

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Originally Posted by Rodney


	It's a glossy look.

I would lean more towards a semi-glossy look with the ones I did. But, they seem to get a bit more glossy if you repress. I had a front pocket design and back design and learned to do the front pocket design first and the back design last since the "more glossy" look of the front pocket design was much less noticeable.

I wonder if using parchment paper would help with this on any repressing??

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