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Old February 14th, 2007 Feb 14, 2007 8:35:04 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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What would be a good transfer paper for nice colors on black t-shirts?
Will any inkjet opaque transfer paper work, or are some better than others?

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Old February 14th, 2007 Feb 14, 2007 8:42:04 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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What would be a good transfer paper for nice colors on black t-shirts?
Will any inkjet opaque transfer paper work, or are some better than others?
The color is dependent on your software/printer/ink setup.

Most of the debate I've seen is on the light paper. I have three different brands of dark paper, I haven't seen much difference between them, but 95% of the transfers I do is with light paper.
 
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Old February 14th, 2007 Feb 14, 2007 8:47:10 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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How does the ironall transfer paper look on black t-shirts? I'm doing color designs with durabrite inks.
 
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How does the ironall transfer paper look on black t-shirts?
IronAll is for lights, it won't work on black (although apparently they are working on a dark version).
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Ok thanks.
This is a bit off topic but...

It seems like everyone recommends plastisol transfers. Is it considered unprofessional to sell shirts made with regular transfer paper? I'm using durabrite inks and a good heatpress, but how long will a regular transfer stay on?
 
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Is it considered unprofessional to sell shirts made with regular transfer paper?
Whether or not it's considered unprofessional will depend entirely on who you ask, but the short answer is yes.
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Whether or not it's considered unprofessional will depend entirely on who you ask, but the short answer is yes.
Transfer paper has a nitch. Put one photo on a T-shirt.
Some times it's a new baby brag shirt, a shirt for grandma, or even a gag gift.

Will it outlast the shirt? NO.
Does it allow you to give the customer a low cost solution to their problem? Yes.

If you are doing a lot of the same picture, there are better choices than transfer paper.
If you have a spare $20K US, and lots of volume, get a DTG.
 
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thanks for the help.

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Personally I think that you can make a professional product with transfer paper, but only with normal, light transfers -- NOT opaque transfers.

I admit that light transfers won't have the same quality as a good screenprint/plastisol/etc., but the quality is still decent, and will last a long time. It wouldn't be appropriate for high end fashion t-shirts, but for regular Joe Schmoe t-shirt buyer I don't think the difference matters much.

Opaque transfers, on the other hand, I don't use at all =) They have their niche, but the quality of those that I've seen was too poor for me to creally consider using them.
 
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Personally I think that you can make a professional product with transfer paper, but only with normal, light transfers -- NOT opaque transfers.
I recently got some Opaque Transfer paper from Coastal but haven't tried it yet. I'm just curious why opaque transfers are considered inferior when compared to inkjet transfers for light shirts? (like Jetflex / Ironall)

Do the opaque transfers fade and wash off easily?
 
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I'm just curious why opaque transfers are considered inferior when compared to inkjet transfers for light shirts? (like Jetflex / Ironall)
They have a heavy/plasticy feel on the shirt.
 
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Is the feel the only difference between light and dark transfers?

How about durability?
 
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Is the feel the only difference between light and dark transfers?

How about durability?

In my experience the quality/durability is definitely worse as well, though to be fair I haven't tried all of the popular opaques available; some may be better than others. From what I've seen and heard, though, in addition to feeling like plastic, they are more likely to crack or peel from the shirt (and can have problems after only a few washes). Finally, you have to trim an image exactly to get rid of all the whitespace -- which limits your design possibilties.
 
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Good Morning All!

I guess I'm in that same situtation, I'm actually using an epson inkjet to print on my dark colored t shirts. However I am actually looking for a good transfer paper that I can use on dark shirts. I'm in a bind because I don't know of any transfer company that provides transfer paper where you don't see the white space around the image. I've used epson transfer paper and the transfer came out plastic like, you can't stretch it too much and it is crunchy ( I hope thats understandable ) I'm expecting some samples from a few vendors but I'm a bit anxious and want to know from first hand experience on what your preferences are. I'm starting my business and I want to have a good start or at least have an idea. I GREATLY appreciate all responses.
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In my experience with the opaque transfers, they all are that way, some are less crunchy than others, but not too much difference.
All the ones I have tried (& I have tried many brands) have that plastic feel & don't stretch too well.
I think that's why most people here have a less than positive view of them.
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