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Old February 5th, 2007 Feb 5, 2007 5:15:20 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Hi everyone, nice to be here, my name is Lee I am starting a t-shirt printing buisness, however I am still only at the stage of trying to gather some kit and so I am very green. I need to ask about printers, what is best for transfers, Inkjet or Lazer? What is best for quality of print and What is most economical in terms of ink useage. I have also just heard something about Pigment inks?? which I know nowt about. I would be happy for any help on these matters, thank you very much.
 
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Well, economically speaking, laser printers are more expensive, and inkjet printers are cheaper. I'm not sure about ink/toner pricing.

Pigment inks are for inkjet printers. Pigment inks work better for t-shirts than dye inks.
 
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Hello to everyone

First I apologize for my broken English.

I have the same questions as LEE337. I almost bought DTG Kiosk when I start to reading about transfers paper. I found this seller: Iron-On Transfers, Heat Press Machines, T-Shirt Printing Supplies - Pro World . They seems like they know what they selling.
Is anyone using transfer paper for professional purpose? Is the really so durable and soft hand? And which printer gives the best results: INK, laser color, or laser color CLC?
In my case I do not care about printer cost. In Poland I can buy used HP4500 for 200$ but I rather thinking about bigger formats: HP 8850 (700$) or that one with oil fusser like Canon CLC 700 (1200). Anyway it is much chipper than DTG.
 
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Thus far for me, its got to be my Canon CLC1110 (fuser oil type & with RIP). Although the initial cost of the machine is the highest when compared to an Inkjet, and a Laser Printer, I expect to get more out of it. The advantages I've seen so far are:
1) Fastest Printing Speed - as Lucy (T-Bot) said, just load the paper and hit "Play"
2) Lowest Cost of the papers for light and dark garments
3) Color Output - uniform color throughout the page with the Raster Image Processor. Some fading though for the light transfers, but this fading is on the first wash only. Opaque transfers have the best color output.
4) Durability - I've seen cracks on my inkjet transfers, but none so far on my CLC Transfers
5) Flexibility - The machine is capable of printing up to A3 size paper, and will "automatically" turn your shop into a copy center shop. Paper transfers are also available so you can do transfers on mugs and other solid materials.

I'm still a newbie at this, so I welcome some corrections/suggestions on my CLC impressions.
 
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Has anyone used the new Sawgrass ink "Chromablast"
 
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Yes, several people here are. If you check out the Heat Transfers section of the forum, you'll see lots of topics about the best transfer paper and the best printers.

There's also some good information about laser printers and laser transfers here.

http://www.t-shirtforums.com/tags/inkjet-transfers/
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Thank you very much Rodney.
And I have question to vctradinqcubao "What kind of paper you are using witch your Canon clc?" Can you recommend any?
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Thank you very much Rodney.
And I have question to vctradinqcubao "What kind of paper you are using witch your Canon clc?" Can you recommend any?
Sincerely Bart
You can call me Byron, Immortalis. I was asking some forum friends about some tips on what paper to use for my CLC on this post: HELP, TRANSFER PAPER FOR CLC (oil type)

Right now, I've tested the locally available CLC transfers (1 for light and another opaque type for dark). Unfortunately, these two are OEM types, so there's no label. Yesterday though, I finally received the Photo-Trans Plus (for light garments), Photo-Trans SC (for heavier type light garments). This two papers are manufactured by Neenah (US company) and are widely available in the US. I found the Paperhood.com (via the Net) located in Manhattan and asked my brother-in-law to buy and send me some. Neenah papers are also sold by Coastals, PaperRanch, ProWorld, so they're pretty common there. I also ordered the Laser 1-step Opaque from Paperhood but I still don't know what company makes them. I will test these papers tomorrow.

I'm also waiting some sample papers from Forever Transfers (Germany). They seem to produce great & advanced paper transfers products. I don't think they have a distributor yet in Poland. You can e-mail Mark Egner to inquire. They would be happy to send you samples, especially when there's no distributor yet in your country.
 
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Thank you all for your reply's but alas i am still very green. Ta
 
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