Discuss the various aspects of heat press technology. Transfer paper, inks, plastisol transfers, vinyl cutters, printers, commercial usage, durability, suppliers, etc.
TRANSFER PAPER FOR COLORED LASER COPIER (oil type clc)
Today, I await delivery of my Canon CLC1110, fuser oil type colored laser copier. Just when I'm so excited to try out this machine, the only local company I know of which sells paper for this machine ran out of stocks about 2 weeks ago. Untill now, no stocks yet and I'm not sure when the supply will arrive.
I NEED YOUR HELP BADLY FRIENDS. WHAT TRANSFER PAPER ARE YOU USING FOR YOUR CLC, FOR LIGHT AND DARK GARMENTS, AND WHERE CAN I ORDER THEM FROM. I'm getting desperate here since I'll be starting payment for this machine and I have no transfer paper yet, therefore I can't make any money.
Mark, I'm from the Philippines and here's my situation:
1) DTG is not yet available here, so I can't consider it now. I have two epson inkjets, 1 loaded with sublimation ink, and another with durabrite pigment which I plan to load up with CIS dye ink, so I can save when using inkjet transfers.
2) I have an embroidery shop which I am expanding somewhat so I can offer other imprintable services. By getting the Canon CLC, I'm also able to turn my shop into a "digital copy center". I can now offer color copying and printing services to my customers, the short run type like business cards, brochures, flyers, posters (up to A3 size), invitations, etc. Canon also offered a faster black/white digital copier/printer so we could also print digital documents like manuals and ring bind them.
3) In comparing the output of inkjet and CLC transfers, I feel like the CLC shirts looks closer to screen printing than the inkjet transfers. Although there are some fading after the wash, there's no cracking, and it looks like it would last longer. It's the closest I can get to a screen printed shirt. (Nobody's doing Plastisol transfers here yet)
4) If I can get a volume job, printing in the CLC would be faster compared to printing in the inkjet.
5) Cost of the paper for the CLC is cheaper than for inkjets, at least for the light shirts.
6) CLC's basically has two types: those with the fuser oil, and those without. Fuser oil types clc's seems to have better color quality output, and the paper for them are cheaper. It's the type being used in the graphic industry, when you're very particular with color output (so my sales agent says).
7) If you don't have sublimation printer, you can also use the clc transfers for mugs and other solid substrate. There's this "mug 'n more" paper from neenah and i read that you'll use a mug glazer after a mug press when using this.
I'm still a newbie at this and I welcome (and will be glad) if others will come in and correct me, or add some more. I still have this big problem of not having a transfer paper to print on. Hope this helps you, and hope others will help me.
4) If I can get a volume job, printing in the CLC would be faster compared to printing in the inkjet.
That is for sure.
I dont know much about the "Digital Printing" end but I do know that we use a Xerox CLC for all types of applications and even for some t-shirt transfers sometimes.
In the 90's, a 600 shirt full color graphic overnight oder was NO problem even with the old Kodac CLC. So yeah, you can pump out a lot of shirts with CLC/Printer printing the transfers. You fill up the paper tray and hit "Play".
Xerox has their own Brand of CLC transfer paper media. I think that Canon should have it too....may be not ??? You should be able to find 11x17 (for yield purposes) good quality CLC transfer paper. May be contact Xerox. lol
Xerox has their own Brand of CLC transfer paper media. I think that Canon should have it too....may be not ??? You should be able to find 11x17 (for yield purposes) good quality CLC transfer paper. May be contact Xerox. lol
may be BestBlanks ????
I guess we're behind in technology by a decade .
Do you happen to know the manufacturer of Xerox Brand CLC, or at least it's equivalent brand in those CLC papers being sold by Bestblanks, Coastal, Imprintables, etc.? I've researched some CLC papers manufactured by Neenah and Paropy. Could this be the same paper you're using and just re-branded by Xerox?
Are you still using this Xerox CLC papers, and in what monthly volume?
I dream that someday, I'll be able to print 600 shirts in one night.
Are you still using this Xerox CLC papers, and in what monthly volume?
Yep, still using the Xerox paper, low volume for the odd photo shirt or small quantities full-color for TV, photo shoots etc.... more economical.
.......Doing more of the plastisol Transfers for volume now.
I dont know if BestBlanks and others sell the equivelent because i've never tried them. But I would think they would be just as good quality as the Xerox Paper.
I've been using our Canon CLC 5000 to print transfers. Paper I am using is from Coastal called One Step. It's a hot peel. It works ok. You'll need to trip the transfer since it gives you a "heavy hand".
I tested DuraCotton samples Ed sent. It works a lot better than One Step in my opinion. DuraCotton claims their transfer gives you no hand. I get close to no hand, meaning you don't feel it..but you can see the impression (window). Ed suggested to stretch the garment in both directions to eliminate the "window". I tried his suggestion and was able to minimize the "window" but not eliminated tho.
Byron, Thanks for your thoughts. I am not even close to being as big a business as I want to be(just starting). However, I am definately going digital just dont know if a 500ish dollar color printer that will only do 8.5 x 11 will be the way to go or should I spend 3000ish dollars and get a unit that I may not be able to justify, but will do 11" x 17". Still scratching my head. The bulk of my printing will be to make transfers. Will I regret getting an 8.5 x 11? I know I can outsource but I am affraid that on my smaller runs that are larger than 8.5 x 11 will be to costly.
Mark,
Do you do a lot of transfers larger than 8.5x14? Most letter size color laser printers will accept 14" length paper. I wouldn't go 11x17 unless you have the need. If speed is a factor. I'd buy two $500 printers for $1,000 still be less than $3,000.
We use 11x17 here because our cost model is different. Our Canon is charge by the "clicks" each month. "Click Charge" is the same each time the machine cycles regardless the size of the paper we feed thru.
Hey guys, you can also lease to own type deal. This way you upgrade as you need, considering how fast tech improves and how quick New equip. depreciates etc.... just an idea.
phillip, right now speed is not that important and I am not doing many transfers bigger than 8.5 x 14 but dont want to make an expensive mistake and tie my hands. thanks for shedding light on this for me.
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