Discuss the various aspects of heat press technology. Transfer paper, inks, plastisol transfers, vinyl cutters, printers, commercial usage, durability, suppliers, etc.
As some of you know I was an Epson product demo rep for a period of time. Part of our demo was to place a picture into a glass of water to show how the pigment inks differ from dye inks. As we have countless questions brought up here about that I thought I would duplicate this demo. Now this is not a scientific test so use it at your own discretion. I have 2 printers and they are both epson but in one I placed dye inks and in the other I place pigment inks. I must tell you the pigment inks come from Coastal and not from Epson. The fact is it is a pigment ink.
The first and second picture shows the prints I did with 4 colors. Then I place the prints into a clear glass of water for about one minute. Then i removed the prints and set them out for you to see the difference. i believe the pictures speak for them selves. Notice the glass of kool Aid. The other glass is a lot clearer and that of course is the pigment ink. I hope this helps explain the differences. Lou
No big deal I bought it at Office max. It is their brand. I have also used inkquick and I was told that it was pigment. I always felt some did not know what they were talking about as you can see from this test. I had the same results from their ink as well. Lou By the way I made a spelling error in the subject I said dy instead of Dye.. sorry about that.
I see where it looks like the pigment inks run a tad bit also even though they are brighter than the dy inks. Now the Epson C88 I'm confused are they pigment or dy inks? Everyone is telling me to switch to the C88 that the inks don't run at all with them like they do with the HP inks.
Cynthia
Now the Epson C88 I'm confused are they pigment or dy inks? Everyone is telling me to switch to the C88 that the inks don't run at all with them like they do with the HP inks.
The epson c88 (or c88+) comes with pigment inks (durabrite from epson). You can also buy third party pigment inks to go in the printer.
I see where it looks like the pigment inks run a tad bit
That was because I used just regular paper. On photo paper that would not have happened. And like I said the pigment ink comes from Coastal and not Epson.
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So do some Epsons come with dye based inks then?
Epson makes printer for Pro photographers and they like the dye inks for picture quality. The durabrite inks tend to dry darker on paper. The Epson durabrite printers are designed for general photo people who will take pictures and put in the photo album
Banolou if I have a 1280 or 14oo epson printer can I replac the ink with a bulk pigment ink system? HOw compatible is the pigment ink with these printers will it cause the the printers life to be shortened.
Banolou if I have a 1280 or 14oo epson printer can I replac the ink with a bulk pigment ink system? HOw compatible is the pigment ink with these printers will it cause the the printers life to be shortened.
Yes you can through a CIS (Continual Ink System). There are quite a few places that sell them with pigment ink. Not sure about the lifespan though.
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It's a good idea - when starting to look for CIS or bulk ink systems - to do a search for your printer model and find out what bulk systems and inks other folks are running in the same printer trouble free.
Also, I've seen some more experienced folks here suggest that one should buy the bulk system and ink from the same supplier to avoid possible compatability issues that can arise there, though they have been successfully bought seperately.
Pigment ink is compatible with those printers, and every printing heat transfer papers usually switch to some kind of pigment ink for printing for bet results, unless they go dye-sub.
Epson water test with pigment and dye inks 
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