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Old July 18th, 2009 Jul 18, 2009 10:49:14 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone help me do this in three colors i am trying to clean it up to make three colors letter white and border surrounding white and inbetween red and blue white.the front blue and back red. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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can you explain what you need a little better...I dont understand what you are trying to do...i know you need three colors ...but what and were would help...a detailed discription and maybe someone can help....I can give it a try but need more info...

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So Red, Blue & Black?
If it's a jpg, it will need separating in PS.
Are the colours set up as spots or is this just RGB/CMYK?
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Old July 18th, 2009 Jul 18, 2009 12:24:51 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Hello and ty for reply. I am very new to this but have been working on this image for two full days. It is a jpg and i have been trying to put the letters and the outline of the logo white including small section of interior that has to be white. The front of the logo has to be blue 1/3 or so and the the white comes in and then the of the TAIL OF flag is red.

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this is a quict try ...is this what you are trying to do?


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Old July 18th, 2009 Jul 18, 2009 12:42:28 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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Anyone help me do this in three colors i am trying to clean it up to make three colors letter white and border surrounding white and inbetween red and blue white.the front blue and back red. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
This is really confusing what you describe.
What's the color of the shirt? Black?

Anyhow, turning a jpeg into separations, the way I do it is with alpha channels. The image, as it is, is blue red and black.

With the magic wand tool you can select all instances of a given color, then save the selection as an alpha channel. Name the alpha channel the color ink you want to use, and, importantly, change the preview color of the alpha channel to roughly match the ink color you mean to use.

If you convert the image to cmyk, looking at individual channels is an alternative to using the eye dropper to get pure grayscale profiles for your spot color.

Also important, make damn sure there are the same reg marks in the same places as all your color alpha channels.

When all your colors are saved as alpha channels, and previewing as the intended ink color, you can make all the alpha channels visable and make the cmyk or rgb channels invisable. Now you have a preview of what your print might look like, realize you may need to rearrage the order of the alpha channel alyers to see the preview best.

If you want to change an ink color, change the preview color of that channel.

If you need to back colors with white , add the information from the color channels to your white channel (load selection and fill with black).

if you need to spread, load the channel as a selection - go to the selection menu up top and 'expand' the selection by a few pixels - then fill with black.

If you need to choke (as in a backing white so white doesn't show at edges) - load the channel as a selection, from the select menu 'contract' the selection by a few pixels - from the select menu 'inverse' your selection and fill with white.

Print your channels individually from photoshop with no other channel previewing to get your plate images with which to make screens.
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Ty shirt is navy i will try what you said.
 
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Old July 19th, 2009 Jul 19, 2009 11:35:07 AM -   #8 (permalink)
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HELLO ME AGAIN.. DAY 3!! lol STILL NO LUCK.. CAN ANYONE SEPERATE THIS TO 3 COLORS. I HAVE THE RED AND BLUE BUT WHITE COMES UP TRANSPARENT AND I AN STUCK. THANKS AGAIN FOR ANY HELP
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HELLO ME AGAIN.. DAY 3!! lol STILL NO LUCK.. CAN ANYONE SEPERATE THIS TO 3 COLORS. I HAVE THE RED AND BLUE BUT WHITE COMES UP TRANSPARENT AND I AN STUCK. THANKS AGAIN FOR ANY HELP
That's because the black lines are used for your white plate instead of the white areas. Make all the areas you need to be white, black - and then use black for your white channel.

Unless...

If you are using channels as I described, what counts is the selection. Use the magic wand tool, but constrain the tool to select only contiguous areas. If you press 'shift' each new selection made by the magic wand gets added to the existing selection. This way you can select all of the areas that need to be white. Save this selection as an alpha channel, do not name it or give it a preview color. In your white channel, which has all of the black line information, 'load selection' using the new channel you just made, the fill with black adding that information to your white channel.

This stuff get's intuitive after a while. What I wrote before was off the top of my head, sorry I didn't think of the issue with the white if you're using the black lines for your white.
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Thanks for everthing, i think i have MOST OF WHAT YOU SAID BUTwhen i view channels it shows everthing black solid.

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That is correct. Channels are like film output. Black. You can double click a channel and decide what color you would like for that channel to appear as in Photoshop. If you turn on 1 channel, it will be black, if you turn on 2 channels, you will see whatever color you assigned to them. Also, there's a preference in Photoshop that allows you to see channels in color regardless of whether or not you have more than one turned on. So black is correct. Channels are all about levels of opacity. Solid color down to no color and everything in between. Similar to a layer...but different. LOL
 
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Thanks Proseparator for explaining that. Yes, you need to have more than one alpha channel selected to view the preview color.

Same way the rgb channels are black or grey until more than one is made visable,
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