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Old April 30th, 2009 Apr 30, 2009 2:22:35 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default 2hrs down the drain...color selecting in CS3

I have been trying for hours to get a vector file in layers (by color) so I can have my design printed and am having some real trouble with this one...

in Photoshop CS3....
Is it possible to select every pixel of an EXACT color.


.....I usually just .....
Select....color range....use the eyedropper and then alter my fuzziness as needed....
.....but pixels are still getting let behind.

I want an EXACT color range.....(no room for error with fuzziness) Is this possible????
...and is there a way to see exactly how many different pixel shades are in a given design?

THANKS!!!!
 
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Default Re: 2hrs down the drain...color selecting in CS3

If you go to window/swatches it will bring up your swatch toolbox. Designate each swatch in the toolbox to a corresponding color in the design. Erase the other default swatches. Right click the swatches that you assigned to the design colors in the toolbox, and change them from process color to spot color. Your design is print ready. No need to put them on separate layers. Depending on whether or not you need an underbase (white underbase for dark garments) or trapping (slightly wider outline) , there may be a few additional steps, but otherwise it is ready for print.

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Default Re: 2hrs down the drain...color selecting in CS3

Ill give that a try...appreciate the help
 
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Old April 30th, 2009 Apr 30, 2009 3:55:34 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: 2hrs down the drain...color selecting in CS3

Erased all of the swatches....added my own using the eyedropper and grabing from my design...4 colors total. When I right click "my swatches" I only get three options. NEW SWATCH. RENAM SWATCH. AND DELETE SWATCH?
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If you go to window/swatches it will bring up your swatch toolbox. Designate each swatch in the toolbox to a corresponding color in the design. Erase the other default swatches. Right click the swatches that you assigned to the design colors in the toolbox, and change them from process color to spot color. Your design is print ready. No need to put them on separate layers. Depending on whether or not you need an underbase (white underbase for dark garments) or trapping (slightly wider outline) , there may be a few additional steps, but otherwise it is ready for print.

edit: here it is with all registration marks, spot colors labeled, printers notes, and center marks.
 
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Erased all of the swatches....added my own using the eyedropper and grabing from my design...4 colors total. When I right click "my swatches" I only get three options. NEW SWATCH. RENAM SWATCH. AND DELETE SWATCH?
Sorry, double click the swatch.
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Default Re: 2hrs down the drain...color selecting in CS3

double click....color swatch name opens....

when you say designate the colors, you mean just use the dropper to select the colors from my image correct? (like I did)
 
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Default Re: 2hrs down the drain...color selecting in CS3

The key to getting good color ranges is resolution. The higher, the better. At least 300 dpi at actual size in inches. Then select colors with "color range". We rarely use the magic wand to pick colors. Also you can adjust the "fuziness" to grab more or less edge pixels.
You can save selections as layers or channels. Learn to use channels, it will make your life easier.
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Default Re: 2hrs down the drain...color selecting in CS3

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double click....color swatch name opens....

when you say designate the colors, you mean just use the dropper to select the colors from my image correct? (like I did)
Correct. You can check to make sure everything is in spot color by selecting everything, Object/expand object, stroke, fill. (make sure you don't need to adjust any strokes before you do this). Then select/same/fill color. If everything selected matches the corresponding swatch; object/hide/selection. Do the same for your other 3 colors. If anything is left, then it is not in spot color. Select it, and change it to whichever color it needs to be. Object/show all.

Edit: Sorry, I misread your first post. I am giving you directions to set up vector files for Illustrator. I read vector, and immediately thought Illustrator CS3.
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Default Re: 2hrs down the drain...color selecting in CS3

Ahhh....lol Photoshop CS3
I have Coreldraw x4 for my vector work....
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Correct. You can check to make sure everything is in spot color by selecting everything, Object/expand object, stroke, fill. (make sure you don't need to adjust any strokes before you do this). Then select/same/fill color. If everything selected matches the corresponding swatch; object/hide/selection. Do the same for your other 3 colors. If anything is left, then it is not in spot color. Select it, and change it to whichever color it needs to be. Object/show all.

Edit: Sorry, I misread your first post. I am giving you directions to set up vector files for Illustrator. I read vector, and immediately thought Illustrator CS3.
 
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in Photoshop CS3....
Is it possible to select every pixel of an EXACT color.
Save your vector file as an .eps
Open it with photoshop, it will show you an options box. UNCHECK ANTI-ALIAS
now you can use the magic wand(uncheck anti-alias for this tool too) to select only the colors you want.
 
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Default Re: 2hrs down the drain...color selecting in CS3

....or in Photoshop use the pen tool. Put the file to resolution at size. make layers for each color and name them. The pen tool is used like a vector tool. Start by tracing each shape one at a time( select the color layer first). Clean the shape with the vector tools.Right click fill with 100% black. Right click delete path. Do this for all shapes and colors. To print, turn off all layers cept the one printing....turn reg marks on.

This is one way, I'm old shool.
 
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Tracing by hand works and works well, but who has time for that?
High res, low fuziness, expand selection 1 or 2 pixels.
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Default Re: 2hrs down the drain...color selecting in CS3

Have you ever tried doing the sep in Illustrator?
Since it is vector it should work well.
Just open a new file place the vector art and then use the pantone solid coated or uncoated swatches for each color needed. This will give you a spot color for each. Delete out all other swatches in your palette that are not solid pantone colors.
 
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I here ya, out da box. Most art comes to me as ink splatter on a page that is blown up to big.
 
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Default Re: 2hrs down the drain...color selecting in CS3

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I have been trying for hours to get a vector file in layers (by color) so I can have my design printed and am having some real trouble with this one...

in Photoshop CS3....
Is it possible to select every pixel of an EXACT color.


.....I usually just .....
Select....color range....use the eyedropper and then alter my fuzziness as needed....
.....but pixels are still getting let behind.

I want an EXACT color range.....(no room for error with fuzziness) Is this possible????
...and is there a way to see exactly how many different pixel shades are in a given design?

THANKS!!!!
If the file is vector why do you have to rasterize it and open in Photoshop? why not separate from Draw? It seems like a lot of extra steps to me
 
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