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Old November 18th, 2006 Nov 18, 2006 1:12:36 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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I have a drawing that was done on a 18"x23.5" sheet of paper. So i scanned this in sections at 300 dpi and connected them using PaintShop Pro. Since this was a drawing done by hand there's alot of small strokes that i need to get rid off/clean up wich is taking a whole lot of time. My image on my computer is actual size 18"x23.5"

Hence my question comes in. At what resolution should i have my design? I mean, what is the best size for the picture to come out perfect? For those you that scan your drawings, do you clean them up afterwards? If so what is the fastest method?


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I have a drawing that was done on a 18"x23.5" sheet of paper. .... I mean, what is the best size for the picture to come out perfect?
A few questions that would help us help you...

Is the final product going to be screen printed on T-shirts at about 10" wide?

It is one color or mult color art?

Was the drawing in pencil and you want the texture of the paper sketch to look more like solid ink?

What changes are you attempting to make with your scanned image?

Can you make a small jpeg and post it so we can see what you are working with?
 
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A few questions that would help us help you...

Is the final product going to be screen printed on T-shirts at about 10" wide?

It is one color or mult color art?

Was the drawing in pencil and you want the texture of the paper sketch to look more like solid ink?

What changes are you attempting to make with your scanned image?

Can you make a small jpeg and post it so we can see what you are working with?
1. The drawing was actually done to scale. It's going to be about 23"
2. Currently it's one color. Might add another color. So tops 2 colors.
3. The Drawing was in pencil and marker but I Want the final to look like solid ink.
4. Since the outline/sketch was done in pure pencil the're some small strokes that fall out of place, and since i'm going for that solid ink look i trying to get rid of them.
5. Ten-K.jpg

Thakz For Your Help.
 
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Cool design.

Do you have a vector program like Corel Draw or Illustrator?
I have both but I know Ill. much better.

I would place the scanned image in one layer and then use the vector tools to trace over the design with the beizer curves. You could smooth up the curves if you want that look.

It would then allow you to resize up or down without any loss of quality, and easily create the second spot color.

The size of your scan inside the program may slow down redraws etc. I would save a smaller copy of your scan and use that to trace from.

If you don't want to mess with the redraw, you could pay and have it done for you. www.vectordoctor.com was mentioned in other threads as a good/cheap resource for converting art to vectors.
 
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BTW How are you going to use this art? Printed, screened...?
 
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Cool design.

Do you have a vector program like Corel Draw or Illustrator?
I have both but I know Ill. much better.

I would place the scanned image in one layer and then use the vector tools to trace over the design with the beizer curves. You could smooth up the curves if you want that look.

It would then allow you to resize up or down without any loss of quality, and easily create the second spot color.

The size of your scan inside the program may slow down redraws etc. I would save a smaller copy of your scan and use that to trace from.

If you don't want to mess with the redraw, you could pay and have it done for you. www.vectordoctor.com was mentioned in other threads as a good/cheap resource for converting art to vectors.
Thankz.

Actually I do have Corel Draw but have no experience with it whatsoever. I much rather use PSP. Can that be done with Pain Shop Pro? I'll look for some tutorials, if you can point me to some i would gladly appreciate it.
Thank you for the Nfo.

I would still like to know, what would be the best image size for me to turn in my design to a screen printer? actual size (1950x3240)?
 
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BTW How are you going to use this art? Printed, screened...?
I'm very new to having shirts made. To tell you the truth what's the difference? Quality?
I was hoping that the person at the screen printing place could give me options and show me the difference.
 
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I'm very new to having shirts made. To tell you the truth what's the difference? Quality?
I was hoping that the person at the screen printing place could give me options and show me the difference.
OK, you've opened up a can of worms. It is sometimes best to work the project backwords to get the right solutions.

1. I just measured a large T, it is about 18" x 23". Assuming you are screen printing, this design size will not fit on an Adult small T. The screen printer would have to make a second size screen for smaller shirts. (more $$$)

2. It would be best to check with your screen printer and ask them what the max. size print they can do. It will be based on the frame size of the screens they use.

3. To make the screen, the printer will first print your art with a laser printer on a sheet of vellum, (looks like a sheet of wax paper).

I print my art to fill a 8.5" x 11" sheet and he enlarges it to size, usually 12" wide max so we can use one screen size on adult small through 2XL tees. I give him one black and white sheet for each color of the job. We do mostly event T's and business wear. Different from what you are doing here.

I'm guessing you don't have a way to print out an 18 x 23 sheet of paper, will your printer? You will need to ask.

4. I can't help you with "Pain Shop Pro" I do like the new name....

This would be a great job to learn Corel Draw. You would be good at drawing the curves when you finished, and you may never go back to PSP.
I know it is easy to 'go with what you know', but if you want the "picture to come out perfect", and "the fastest method", trace it in vectors.

Learning a new program is frustrating, but it will pay off in the long run.

If you have to stick with cleaning up the scans, 150 dpi should be enough to keep the edges sharp. Do a save as, resize and print out a test page to confirm.
 
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OK, you've opened up a can of worms. It is sometimes best to work the project backwords to get the right solutions.

1. I just measured a large T, it is about 18" x 23". Assuming you are screen printing, this design size will not fit on an Adult small T. The screen printer would have to make a second size screen for smaller shirts. (more $$$)

2. It would be best to check with your screen printer and ask them what the max. size print they can do. It will be based on the frame size of the screens they use.

3. To make the screen, the printer will first print your art with a laser printer on a sheet of vellum, (looks like a sheet of wax paper).

I print my art to fill a 8.5" x 11" sheet and he enlarges it to size, usually 12" wide max so we can use one screen size on adult small through 2XL tees. I give him one black and white sheet for each color of the job. We do mostly event T's and business wear. Different from what you are doing here.

I'm guessing you don't have a way to print out an 18 x 23 sheet of paper, will your printer? You will need to ask.

4. I can't help you with "Pain Shop Pro" I do like the new name....

This would be a great job to learn Corel Draw. You would be good at drawing the curves when you finished, and you may never go back to PSP.
I know it is easy to 'go with what you know', but if you want the "picture to come out perfect", and "the fastest method", trace it in vectors.

Learning a new program is frustrating, but it will pay off in the long run.

If you have to stick with cleaning up the scans, 150 dpi should be enough to keep the edges sharp. Do a save as, resize and print out a test page to confirm.
Thankz. Will take your advice.

 
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God damn. I used Corel Draw and used the "Trace Bitmap" feature, doesn't get any easier than that.

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You CAN clean it up and smooth things out in a raster program like PSP, but vector will give you a better quality final product and be just as fast. I've done both, and vector is the way to go for a design like that usually. Looks nice, by the way =)
 
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another trick is to select the object with the shaping tool (node tool) look on the property bar for the select all nodes button. Click it. Next in the numerical node reduction window type one (1) and hit enter. Depend on the objects complexity this will reduce the number of nodes making it a lot easier to clean up the remaining nodes for a smoother line.
 
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1. The drawing was actually done to scale. It's going to be about 23"
2. Currently it's one color. Might add another color. So tops 2 colors.
3. The Drawing was in pencil and marker but I Want the final to look like solid ink.
4. Since the outline/sketch was done in pure pencil the're some small strokes that fall out of place, and since i'm going for that solid ink look i trying to get rid of them.
5. Attachment 352

Thakz For Your Help.
I hate to get off topic, but I'm curious as to what the "R" in the circle is for.
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I hate to get off topic, but I'm curious as to what the "R" in the circle is for.
It should of been a "C". Oh well, atleast i'm trying to let people know that this is my design and that I will copyright it soon.

Thankz for pointing that out.
 
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Oh, okay!

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