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Old January 15th, 2008 Jan 15, 2008 6:25:16 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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I sent an email to F&M expressions with my t-shirt graphic
attach to it and the responce was...


"We need vector art because that is one of the art file types that
we
accept to create transfers from. The jpeg you sent was only @
96dpi...in
order for us to use that the jpeg would have to be at least 300 dpi.
If you
send us an art file created to meet our specs (attached for you here)
then
we should be good to go. "

Does that mean my graphic is too small because its only 96 dpi? Or it it something
eles? If anyone can help me out that be very helpful.
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Old January 15th, 2008 Jan 15, 2008 6:38:48 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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DPI stands for "Dots Per Inch". The more dots, the better the quality of the picture. Think of it like a mosaic. If you only had 4 tiles to make a picture compared to 20, it wouldn't be so great. Now think if you had 256 tiles, that would be better, and so on.
96 is not too good. 200 is alright and 300 would be best. 96 is good for just looking at it on the computer. The dimensions also need to be what the final size is. So if the design is 10"x5" @ 96 dpi. Changing it to 3"x2" @ 300 is the same, not better.

Vector is based on mathematical plotting. It has a tendency to produce simplier color artwork, but can be scaled up to larger proportions with out any loss of quality.
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Old January 15th, 2008 Jan 15, 2008 6:43:30 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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I'm sure someone else will have a much better answer, but here's mine in a nutshell... If you're not familiar with DPI, it stands for Dots per Inch - they are telling you the resolution on the artwork you sent them is too low. If your artwork is only available in raster vs vector, then you will have to find them a higher resolution version of your artwork.

Here's an easy-easy way to find out the DPI of a raster image in Microsoft Paint - open the design, and go to Image>Attributes. In there should be the DPI information of the image. Good luck!
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Old January 15th, 2008 Jan 15, 2008 9:09:11 AM -   #4 (permalink)
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So does that mean the image needs to be bigger? And what file extention
should i use for Vector or Raster images?
 
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Old January 15th, 2008 Jan 15, 2008 12:02:15 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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I'd love to know how the heck 300 DPI became a standard for screen printing? It is far in excess of anything needed. Halftone printing is based on halftone screening. The resolution of a graphic should be 1.5-2.5 the LPI of the halftone. With screen printing, a 55 LPI screen is a fairly high line count, at 1.5 times the LPI, the graphic needs to be 82.5 DPI. At 2.5 times it equals 137.5 DPI.

jpeg isn't the best format to save raster images. jpeg is a lossy format, which means that image quality is thrown away to make the file smaller. My next guess is the same idiot who is asking for over 300 DPI is also going to ask for the file to be under 5 megs?

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How would you go about changing the dpi using corel or photoshop
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Old January 15th, 2008 Jan 15, 2008 12:28:35 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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Just an FYI... You're not going to be able to resize your 96x96 DPI design and try to make it 300 DPI, that's not going to work. You can't make something out of nothing. You will have to find an original file that was created at that higher resolution.
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Just an FYI... You're not going to be able to resize your 96x96 DPI design and try to make it 300 DPI, that's not going to work. You can't make something out of nothing. You will have to find an original file that was created at that higher resolution.
So if someone emails me a design and it's not already 300dpi what do you do?
 
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How am i suppose to change the quality of the original image?
 
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Old January 15th, 2008 Jan 15, 2008 5:01:45 PM -   #9 (permalink)
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How am i suppose to change the quality of the original image?
You really can't. There are only 96 dots per inch. So if you stretch it out, now the 96 dots have to fill the larger area. Which is when things become pixelated.

You need to either re-create the file in photoshop, illustrator or corel and make it 300 dpi. Or find an original file that was of a higher resolution.

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You really can't. There are only 96 dots per inch. So if you stretch it out, now the 96 dots have to fill the larger area. Which is when things become pixelated.

You need to either re-create the file in photoshop, illustrator or corel and make it 300 dpi. Or find an original file that was of a higher resolution.

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well, yeah, you really kinda can......it just takes the right software and a checkbook

i use photo zoom pro BenVista

don't get me wrong - it won't take a web gif and make a convincing billboard - but it does work wonders (with some patience and practice!) to convert a customer's 72 dpi artwork to a credible size and resolution for a decent tshirt image. just be sure your customer is aware......garbage in, garbage out.....it will not take a crappy piece of art and magically transform it into a monet....
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Old January 15th, 2008 Jan 15, 2008 7:44:35 PM -   #11 (permalink)
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How am i suppose to change the quality of the original image?
Like what has already been said, it's not (usually) a good idea to increase (or decrease) any image in Photoshop... too much.
You can, but it all depends on the size and quality of the original image, but that means a lot of 'ifs'.
I used to work 'out there' in the world in Photoshop, we would go 'maybe' as high as double the image size when resizing, and that worked kind'a O.K. for GOOD images, and not so good for the bad ones.
If you got a .jpeg off the internet, then increased the image size up to 200%, or increased the DPI from 72 to even 150, you would probably see it in the end result.

When you increase, or decrease an image, the images information has to come from somewhere, so it makes it up, it interpolates the information, making something up as best it knows how, which sometimes works, but all depending on the image.

Also, like what has been said, there are programs that can make it look pretty good, at least from what I hear, I tried one a couple of years ago, and it didn't work, I got better results by myself.
Back about 1999 though, I used a small program (at work, I don't remember what it was) and it worked on about half the images, so, even back then they had some that kind'a worked.
So it can be done, but really you'd be better off just making sure that you either get good images to start, or make your own.
I spent 5 years selling digital images that I sold, the majority of them needing repainting, that fell under "custom artwork", so I charged accordingly.
If you do that kind of stuff, maybe that's what you can do, if not, make it easy on yourself and get good artwork in the beginning, or you might try that program that Jan mentioned, it may help you a lot.

I'll tell you the biggest thing I used when I redid images, I used the Smudge Tool in Photoshop, I'd wiggle the image to blur the digitized parts, (just a little bit) and literally just remake the whole thing.
You can also Blur the image, take a Snapshot, then use the History Tool to smooth out the portions that need it, there's a few ways, none really that are quick though, the way I did it anyway.

To help you better understand (if you don't) you can go here to read more on this.
photoshopHelp: Interpolate This

I'd definitely get a fix before you go and start getting busy though, that is, if you think that your customers would be sending you small sized images.

There's an old saying, You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear", that's mostly true, well, you can, but it (usually) takes some doing.

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The best and easiest way to remedy your image would be to get the original, high-resolution image from whoever emailed it to you.
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300 DPI is actually kind of misleading. It really stands for 300 pixels per inch and it started with offset printing which typically runs at 133 DPI vs 55 DPI for silkscreening. For offset printing you would need that high a resolution, but you're very right when you say we don't need that for silkscreening.

If you silkscreen an image onto a t-shirt output at 120 "DPI" vs 300 "DPI" you wouldn't see much of a difference.
 
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I'd love to know how the heck 300 DPI became a standard for screen printing? It is far in excess of anything needed. Halftone printing is based on halftone screening. The resolution of a graphic should be 1.5-2.5 the LPI of the halftone. With screen printing, a 55 LPI screen is a fairly high line count, at 1.5 times the LPI, the graphic needs to be 82.5 DPI. At 2.5 times it equals 137.5 DPI.

jpeg isn't the best format to save raster images. jpeg is a lossy format, which means that image quality is thrown away to make the file smaller. My next guess is the same idiot who is asking for over 300 DPI is also going to ask for the file to be under 5 megs?

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300 DPI is actually kind of misleading. It really stands for 300 pixels per inch and it started with offset printing which typically runs at 133 DPI vs 55 DPI for silkscreening. For offset printing you would need that high a resolution, but you're very right when you say we don't need that for silkscreening.

If you silkscreen an image onto a t-shirt output at 120 "DPI" vs 300 "DPI" you wouldn't see much of a difference.
 
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