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Old November 15th, 2007 Nov 15, 2007 6:56:05 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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I'm looking to purchase graphics software and I'm confused with all the pros and cons of both Photoshop and Corel. I'm a newbie starting a tshirt line with no graphic artist experience or ability to draw to save my life. However, I have so many ideas trapped in my head. People tell me I should hire someone but I desperately want to learn and play with different original ideas that I have. I want to design a variety of t shirts as well as my business cards. My problem is choosing the software. Can I please get some clarification on which software program I should purchase and the price range I should expect. Thanks in advance.
 
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Old November 15th, 2007 Nov 15, 2007 7:20:25 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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I can only speak from my experience, but CorelDRAW X3 is MUCH easier to learn than Illustrator but just as powerful if you want to make vector graphics.

If you want to do photographic type images you want Photoshop.
 
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Thank you so much!
 
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Old November 15th, 2007 Nov 15, 2007 8:22:49 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Personally, I use Illustrator, BUT I have heard the Corel Draw is very intuitive, and much easier to learn. I think the price is about $400 or so. Here is a link to the free trail download page (I'm using Firefox, and on my end my links don't appear active, so I'm never sure if they are or not, but you can always cut & paste).

Home - Free Trials - Corel Corporation

Here is the link to the US homepage, you can check out some different things and sign up for the newsletter.

Corel Corporation

Now as far as designing your own stuff goes, I would recommend getting a good book (and there are tons of them out there, maybe check some out of the library to see which you like best before purchasing one) on general graphic design, as well as one on whichever program you decide to go with. Of course there are also some really good tutorials online as well. Some of my favorites are: The GoMediaZine! Exclusive insights for art, design, marketing and more. Adobe Illustrator Tutorials, Adobe Photoshop Tutorials, Adobe Flash Tutorials, Adobe After Effects Tutorials. & BittBox (note: Bittbox is more adobe based, but he also has some free vector files, and general design advice and tips which should work in Corel.

I wish you good luck with your new venture.
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Old November 15th, 2007 Nov 15, 2007 8:50:17 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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Bob-O, Thank you! Very informative and helpful. Much appreciated!!!
 
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you dont need vector graphics for t-shirts. photoshop is the only way to go.
depending on how you are outputting your film, even with an image setter, you can exceed the quality of the output device as long as your output does not exceed 100%, so whats the point of vector graphics.
 
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you dont need vector graphics for t-shirts. photoshop is the only way to go.
depending on how you are outputting your film, even with an image setter, you can exceed the quality of the output device as long as your output does not exceed 100%, so whats the point of vector graphics.
I disagree with this. Many raster images look like krap when blown up to fit on a T-shirt. This is why people use vector graphics.

I started with Photoshop, and then picked up Illustrator. Both have their pros and cons, and really both are needed when designing a wide variety of designs. You will undoubtedly need raster image editing software at times (like PS), but for most traditional T-shirt designs, a vector graphics program is the way to go. Illustrator is pretty difficult to learn on your own. I've never used Corel, so I can't compare the two. But I'm guessing that any software that you use will take a while to learn to use it effectively. But if you stick with it and ask questions, you can get proficient.
 
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I learned from scratch on Corel 9 and updated to 12 and also have the Smart Designadd on which simplifies the steps in Corel plus they come with books of graphics and make it easy to change wording etc. on their graphics. With a little patience you can learn it fairly easily...plus there is a Corel Bible that will help alot too. I have photoshop but rarely use it for screen printing. I bought Corel because it was cheaper than Illustrator.
 
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heads up
something to consider

If you dont have advanced computer skills expect it to take months to learn how to use it, depending on your skill level
I can draw freehand and used to do old school graphic art for $
but I just recently started back in and got an illustrator program installed and four hours instruction
but got nuthin out of it, I hit the wall, I'm stuck at zero
however
I would probably need to take basic computer classes and one of those three month courses in illustrator to get where most of you kids are from the start
 
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I'm looking to purchase graphics software and I'm confused with all the pros and cons of both Photoshop and Corel. I'm a newbie starting a tshirt line with no graphic artist experience or ability to draw to save my life. However, I have so many ideas trapped in my head. People tell me I should hire someone but I desperately want to learn and play with different original ideas that I have. I want to design a variety of t shirts as well as my business cards. My problem is choosing the software. Can I please get some clarification on which software program I should purchase and the price range I should expect. Thanks in advance.
hello,
im in the same boat. I'm gonna follow this post closely.. I'm thinking of going the DTG unit. But not intil I research more on the artwork part of it. I too I have tons of Ideas but cant draw. I figured hire someone but of course cost alot of money.
 
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i would say if you are really committed to the business and would really like to be hands on (comme moi) take a photoshop and/or illustrator class at a local college. A quick way to learn the program, doesn't cost much, only a couple hours a week plus you can start working on your design in class getting help from teachers and tutors (without buying the software initially). if you do end up wanting to buy it you might be able to get a student discounted version through the school.
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Old November 16th, 2007 Nov 16, 2007 8:38:14 AM -   #12 (permalink)
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Another thing to consider is if you don't want to spend any money right away, there are free programs available that a lot of people here seem very happy with.

Inkscape is a free vector graphics program (I'm sorry, I don't have a link right now).

There's also a free raster program like Photoshop, tho I can't remember the name of that one right now. Anyone want to stand up and let us know its name?

If you tried those, they could at least give you the basics of drawing on your computer.
 
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Not sure of where to get the free one, wish i would have known, I had to purchase our Photo Shop CS2, expenive but worth it. My wife started teaching herself about 6 months ago and she is doing very well for not going to school. There is so much she still needs to learn, but good enough to create some really cool designs.

As someone just stated it is going to depend on your computer skills, it was a little easier for my wife because designs kitchens at her day job with 20/20 program, which has helped her understand layers and different uses for the tools.

Good luck on which ever program you choose but lucky for you there is always help in this forum when you need it. I cant tell you how many questions I asked for my wife about PS and within hours I had the answers. Lots of nice graphic artisits in here.
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There's also a free raster program like Photoshop, tho I can't remember the name of that one right now. Anyone want to stand up and let us know its name?
I think you are referring to Gimp. I've heard it's very good for free, but have not used it.
 
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That's the one! Thanks!

I tried it a while ago and wasn't at all impressed, but, hey, it's free, and I was used to Photoshop.
 
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